Prom 18: 29.07.16 - Mahler: Symphony no. 3

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  • EdgeleyRob
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    • Nov 2010
    • 12180

    #31
    Originally posted by Alison View Post
    In my early twenties I could easily have notched up thrice a week!
    You've definitely got staying power chuck !

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    • pastoralguy
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      • Nov 2010
      • 7760

      #32
      I've been lucky enough to play this work times 4 times but what I would give to play a gig like that ONCE!

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      • Alison
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        • Nov 2010
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        #33
        Flip me, Kleino was very prompt with her interjection too, how annoying!!

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        • mlb7171

          #34
          Originally posted by Alison View Post
          Flip me, Kleino was very prompt with her interjection too, how annoying!!
          BBC4 were supposed to be elsewhere at 9.15, so I guess she was told to get on with it. Credits were rolling only a few seconds into the applause. Pity, would have been nice to see the amazing reception given to Haitink.

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          • Richard Tarleton

            #35
            From my sofa it sounded and looked fabulous, and yes Bernie looked in great nick.

            The camera editor obviously read my #5, we didn't get to see the flugelhorn player at all did we, unless that was his shadowy outline in the gallery - beautifully done I thought.

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            • zola
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              • May 2011
              • 656

              #36
              Originally posted by EdgeleyRob View Post
              How many times would one listen to this vast work in a lifetime ? Even Mahler nuts like Pet,needs some staying power,I've probably listened about 4 times at the most,
              My rule of thumb with Mahler symphonies is to stick with those that can fit onto one CD !

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              • Simon B
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                • Dec 2010
                • 779

                #37
                Slightly more fluffs and non-unanimous chording than you might expect from the LSO usually, and you could quibble over deliberate tempi, but...

                As a live experience, an emotional clobbering. Which is ultimately the point IMO.

                The huge ovation Nick Betts got for the posthorn solo, if it were broadcast, would tell you the effect on the audience. Played on a flugel tonight I think, though various approaches seem to be tried.

                Besides the obvious (BH) the star of the show, as often for me with this orchestra, was Phil Cobb. That echo of brass band sonority at the start of that final trumpet chorale brought tears to my eyes. In a good way. What a player.

                Fabulous prom, flaws and all.

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                • Eine Alpensinfonie
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                  • Nov 2010
                  • 20570

                  #38
                  Originally posted by Alison View Post
                  Flip me, Kleino was very prompt with her interjection too, how annoying!!
                  I didn't mind that. Just her inappropriate and OTT advert for the later Prom - rather trivial after watching Haitink conducting Mahler 3.

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                  • Flay
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                    • Mar 2007
                    • 5795

                    #39
                    So far I have only watched a portion of the first movement on the TV (Mrs Flay could not cope with it ).

                    I was constantly distracted by the inevitably awful ADHD camera work: the constant movement, zooming in to the fingernails or BH's nostril hairs, then suddenly a view from the back gallery. For once why can't they show whole sections and for more than a few seconds? I think I'll listen to the iPlayer radio version.
                    Pacta sunt servanda !!!

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                    • edashtav
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                      • Jul 2012
                      • 3670

                      #40
                      Just an aside, having listened only to the first movement. [ONLY? It's longer than 50% of all symphonies, surely?] How much did DSCH owe to Mahler and, in particular this symphony, when writing his 4th and 5th symphonies? There was one brassy moment in Mahler's first movement that DSCH copied almost note for note!

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                      • PhilipT
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                        • May 2011
                        • 423

                        #41
                        Originally posted by Flay View Post
                        I was constantly distracted by the inevitably awful ADHD camera work: the constant movement ...
                        Count yourself lucky. I was in the front row, and the movements of the camera operator in front of us were supplemented by the sound of the director's calling-out of the shot numbers leaking from her headphones. Imagine someone counting ".. two-eight-three .. two-eight-four .." sotto voce over the music and you'll have a good idea.

                        My impression was that the first movement was a bit ragged and disconnected, but after that it came together much more, and Sarah Connolly was faultless.

                        Can anyone tell me where all the time went? Mahler 3 is about 95 minutes, isn't it? But it was in the programme as 7:00-8:55 and finished two minutes early, and BH did not take long breaks between movements. Was he observing some repeats most conductors don't, or what?

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                        • Prommer
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                          • Dec 2010
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                          #42
                          Originally posted by EdgeleyRob View Post
                          You've definitely got staying power chuck !
                          So have you, with your 9,999 posts! Manage another for this old cricket scorer's satisfaction?

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                          • Pulcinella
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                            • Feb 2014
                            • 10950

                            #43
                            Originally posted by zola View Post
                            My rule of thumb with Mahler symphonies is to stick with those that can fit onto one CD !
                            In my rather eclectic set, only number 3 (LSO/MTT) runs to two CDs!
                            I've got the Rattle Resurrection, which is indeed on two, but then I also have the Klemperer version, which fits on one!


                            PS: It's probably the one I've listened to least though, which might be what you're implying.
                            Last edited by Pulcinella; 30-07-16, 07:29. Reason: PS added.

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                            • Bryn
                              Banned
                              • Mar 2007
                              • 24688

                              #44
                              Originally posted by zola View Post
                              My rule of thumb with Mahler symphonies is to stick with those that can fit onto one CD !
                              They all can, just so long as a 99 minute overburn CD-R is used. Most performances of the 3rd come in within that 99 minute limit. That's not the case with Bernie's of course.

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                              • BBMmk2
                                Late Member
                                • Nov 2010
                                • 20908

                                #45
                                Apart from not being able to see the reception for Haitink, what a truly marvellous performance!
                                Don’t cry for me
                                I go where music was born

                                J S Bach 1685-1750

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