Prom 8: 21.07.16 - Strictly Prom

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  • french frank
    Administrator/Moderator
    • Feb 2007
    • 30254

    #46
    Originally posted by marvin View Post
    That SCD prom should be good for us with eclectic tastes and who aren't snobs.
    I don't object to the odd Prom like Strictly, but thinking - according to my own tastes - that it will be appalling, cringe-making and less alluring than supermarket Christmas music - doesn't make me a 'snob'. I can't help my tastes any more than you can help yours. I don't disparage you personally and call you a, ooh, I don't know, what? vulgar pleb? so why would you call other people 'snobs'? Isn't that trying to suggest you're superior, i.e. being a snob yourself?

    The Proms does not cater for musically eclectic tastes: it has become a classical music festival with some non-classical 'novelties' because succeeding directors have ordained that it should be so. That's where the Strictly Prom fits in, and may those who expect to enjoy it, do so, - unattacked both verbally and physically.
    It isn't given us to know those rare moments when people are wide open and the lightest touch can wither or heal. A moment too late and we can never reach them any more in this world.

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    • underthecountertenor
      Full Member
      • Apr 2011
      • 1584

      #47
      Originally posted by PJPJ View Post
      Next year's offering will be an "Embarrassing Bodies" Prom.
      From what I've seen in the Arena, that applies to every Prom already, and has done for many, many years.

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      • Serial_Apologist
        Full Member
        • Dec 2010
        • 37619

        #48
        Originally posted by marvin View Post
        That SCD prom should be good for us with eclectic tastes and who aren't snobs.
        What happens if I am a snob and yet enjoy it? Would that disqualify me expressing an opinion on it?

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        • ahinton
          Full Member
          • Nov 2010
          • 16122

          #49
          Originally posted by Serial_Apologist View Post
          What happens if I am a snob and yet enjoy it? Would that disqualify me expressing an opinion on it?
          Strictly speaking, I doubt it.

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          • Ein Heldenleben
            Full Member
            • Apr 2014
            • 6760

            #50
            Snob or no and judged in strictly musical terms I enjoyed the Gypsy opening - one of the great Broadway curtain raisers and written by a Brit . Some excellent and idiomatic bluesy trumpet playing ....

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            • PJPJ
              Full Member
              • Nov 2010
              • 1461

              #51
              And they're playing a couple of my favourite pieces of lighter fare - R R Bennett's music for Murder on the Orient Express.......

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              • Ein Heldenleben
                Full Member
                • Apr 2014
                • 6760

                #52
                Agreed - it's one of the all time great film music cues . The way it integrates with the edit in the movie - absolutely superb. What a talent RRB was. Tonight's performance was a little bit too Southern railway in terms of tempo for me but still great to hear it performed .

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                • pastoralguy
                  Full Member
                  • Nov 2010
                  • 7740

                  #53
                  Alas, I only heard the end of part one on the car radio whilst driving home from work but what I heard sounded terrific. The audience certainly seemed to be enjoying it.

                  Some advice for non believers. Somewhere on your radio, tuner, iPhone or whatever, you will find an off switch or button. (It should be clear on the devices instruction manual, many of which are available online). The idea of this facility is that the device will stop omitting sound which will allow the user to do other things.

                  Afaik, there is no requirement in English or Scottish law requiring one to listen to ANY Prom.

                  So there.

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                  • pastoralguy
                    Full Member
                    • Nov 2010
                    • 7740

                    #54
                    And what superb playing from the orchestra!

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                    • johnn10
                      Full Member
                      • Mar 2011
                      • 88

                      #55
                      Yes, but does she really have to laugh at her own jokes all the time? It is very unprofessional. thet
                      Originally posted by pastoralguy View Post
                      This thread is in real danger of becoming the 'We dislike Katie Derham' platform.

                      There's a 'Strictly' Prom. She's involved.

                      Get over it.

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                      • pastoralguy
                        Full Member
                        • Nov 2010
                        • 7740

                        #56
                        Originally posted by johnn10 View Post
                        Yes, but does she really have to laugh at her own jokes all the time? It is very unprofessional. thet
                        Well, to be honest, no one else is laughing at them...

                        But that doesn't devalue the music.

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                        • Ein Heldenleben
                          Full Member
                          • Apr 2014
                          • 6760

                          #57
                          Orchestra are doing sterling work coping with such a wide range of musical idioms . On the KD front some of us still aren't over the Anita Rani affair -surely one of the great artistic injustices of our time?

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                          • pastoralguy
                            Full Member
                            • Nov 2010
                            • 7740

                            #58
                            Originally posted by Heldenleben View Post
                            Orchestra are doing sterling work coping with such a wide range of musical idioms . On the KD front some of us still aren't over the Anita Rani affair -surely one of the great artistic injustices of our time?
                            I was hoping that wasn't going to come up...

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                            • Stanley Stewart
                              Late Member
                              • Nov 2010
                              • 1071

                              #59
                              Originally posted by Heldenleben View Post
                              Snob or no and judged in strictly musical terms I enjoyed the Gypsy opening - one of the great Broadway curtain raisers and written by a Brit . Some excellent and idiomatic bluesy trumpet playing ....
                              Greetings, Hl, I think that Arthur Laurents, (book), Jule Styne (Music) or the great Sondheim (Lyrics) would be surprised to hear that Gypsy was written by a Brit! Slip of the pen?

                              Hugely enjoying tonight's Prom and look forward to recording it on BBC 4, tomorrow, 22 July. Almost a carbon copy of the format for Friday Night IS Music Night on the Light Programme, many decades ago. I used to stay tuned for Any Questions, chaired by Freddy Grisewood which followed selections from the musical theatre of the great white way. Several happy reminders tonight.

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                              • Ein Heldenleben
                                Full Member
                                • Apr 2014
                                • 6760

                                #60
                                Despite the grumblers - really enjoying this madly eclectic prom - particularly Tschaikovsky showing the rest how to write dance music. Has any one ,before or since , made so much musically out of a descending G major scale?

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