Prom 1: 15.07.16 - First Night of the Proms

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  • Barbirollians
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    • Nov 2010
    • 11700

    #31
    Originally posted by pastoralguy View Post
    Wonderful performance of the Elgar 'cello concerto from Sol Gabetta. Absolutely first rate. (Does anyone remember a pallid reading from Guy Johnston a few years ago at a first night?)
    No I do remember a very dreary deliberately unemotional Paul Watkin first night performance of the Elgar - is that the one you mean ?

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    • MrGongGong
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      • Nov 2010
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      #32
      Originally posted by Stunsworth View Post
      I never used to stand when the national anthem was played at the Free Trade Hall. Not sure how many of your essential attributes I have, or had.

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      • ferneyhoughgeliebte
        Gone fishin'
        • Sep 2011
        • 30163

        #33
        Originally posted by Stunsworth View Post
        I never used to stand when the national anthem was played at the Free Trade Hall. Not sure how many of your essential attributes I have, or had.
        I believe that there is not a God, nor should there be a monarch, so I don't stand for the National Anthem. On this occasion, however, something far more important than jingoism was being commemorated, so I would have stood - for wotsit's sake; I'd've even saluted if called upon to do so.
        [FONT=Comic Sans MS][I][B]Numquam Satis![/B][/I][/FONT]

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        • ferneyhoughgeliebte
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          • Sep 2011
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          #34
          Originally posted by Barbirollians View Post
          No I do remember a very dreary deliberately unemotional Paul Watkin first night performance of the Elgar - is that the one you mean ?
          That was the one I thought of when reading pasty's post - from 2007. (Guy Johnson's performance opened the Season in 2001.)
          [FONT=Comic Sans MS][I][B]Numquam Satis![/B][/I][/FONT]

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          • Stunsworth
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            • Nov 2010
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            #35
            Originally posted by ferneyhoughgeliebte View Post
            I believe that there is not a God, nor should there be a monarch, so I don't stand for the National Anthem. On this occasion, however, something far more important than jingoism was being commemorated, so I would have stood - for wotsit's sake; I'd've even saluted if called upon to do so.
            If I'd have been in the RAH I'd have stood without a moment's hesitation. It was about solidarity not jingoism.
            Steve

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            • Eine Alpensinfonie
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              • Nov 2010
              • 20570

              #36
              Originally posted by Stunsworth View Post
              I never used to stand when the national anthem was played at the Free Trade Hall. Not sure how many of your essential attributes I have, or had.
              I did. When Barbirolli conducted it (orchestra standing too) it was so stunning, you simply had to stand up. Furthermore, Sir John conducted facing the audience, so any dissenters would have been given his acid stare. I did have a friend who refused to stand, but he only showed his petulance once.

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              • ferneyhoughgeliebte
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                • Sep 2011
                • 30163

                #37
                Originally posted by Stunsworth View Post
                If I'd have been in the RAH I'd have stood without a moment's hesitation. It was about solidarity not jingoism.
                [FONT=Comic Sans MS][I][B]Numquam Satis![/B][/I][/FONT]

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                • edashtav
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                  • Jul 2012
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                  #38
                  The 7pm K.O.caught me out and I missed what a R.3 flyer informed me was Tchaikovsky's "ravishing" Romeo and Juliet. I was glad not to have missed Sol Gabetta's stunning Proms debut in the Elgar. Virtuosity made the servant of musicality. There was so much that was refreshing and which sounded revelatory and convincing. She and Sakari caught the unstable, mercurial spirit that underpins Elgar's masterpiece. Wonderful playing, too, from the BBC SO. The Vasks. Is a trivial piece but after the depths plumbed in the Elgar it came as a neat contrast and allowed Sol to demonstrate that she can let her hair down.

                  Onwards, or maybe backwards, to the banal Prokofiev cantata "Alexander Nevsky" crass Soviet Realism relieved only by the magnificent "Field of the Dead" movement for the contralto soloist. Oramo, soloist choruses and orchestra did everything that they could: great rhythmic control, refulgent colours, no punches pulled and climaxes that the Beeb's publicists will record as "ravishing" . The concert was short measure but I'm not grumbling as I was so pleased to get to the end of this mongrel epic.

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                  • Stunsworth
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                    • Nov 2010
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                    #39
                    Rather good 5.1 surround sound for those with the equipment. iPlayer alas is restricted to stereo in my experience.
                    Steve

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                    • ferneyhoughgeliebte
                      Gone fishin'
                      • Sep 2011
                      • 30163

                      #40
                      Originally posted by Eine Alpensinfonie View Post
                      I did. When Barbirolli conducted it (orchestra standing too) it was so stunning, you simply had to stand up. Furthermore, Sir John conducted facing the audience, so any dissenters would have been given his acid stare. I did have a friend who refused to stand, but he only showed his petulance once.
                      And no one would dream of suggesting that Hallé audiences were "like sheep" those days.
                      [FONT=Comic Sans MS][I][B]Numquam Satis![/B][/I][/FONT]

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                      • Eine Alpensinfonie
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                        • Nov 2010
                        • 20570

                        #41
                        Re the TV broadcast, why is KD telling us the following?

                        The audience is still applauding;
                        The conductor his returning to the platform;
                        The soloist was magnificent.



                        Aaaaaaaaargh!





                        Such a good concert, but we don't need a wittering presenter to tell us what we can already see and hear.

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                        • bluestateprommer
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                          • Nov 2010
                          • 3009

                          #42
                          Very well played Alexander Nevsky in the 2nd half, with all parties on cracking form (Borodina, Oramo, the BBC SO, Symphony Chorus, & National Chorus of Wales). Maybe not quite as rock'-em / sock'-em / razzle-dazzle as Belshazzar's Feast at last year's First Night, but very satisfying on its own terms. It seemed a slightly odd moment of musical entrance when Borodina first sang, but then she took over completely, and fittingly as a native Russian singer. Solid start to this Proms season.

                          (PS: On the radio presentation, while Petroc and CBH can be a bit much, in the grand scheme of things, they're fundamentally decent people, and I wouldn't direct any ill feelings at them. There are much more important things to get angry about. I save my anger for the appalling Republican US president/vice-president ticket.)

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                          • johnn10
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                            • Mar 2011
                            • 88

                            #43
                            The reason she stuck to those points was probably due to the fact that there was nothing else on the autocue.
                            Originally posted by Eine Alpensinfonie View Post
                            Re the TV broadcast, why is KD telling us the following?

                            The audience is still applauding;
                            The conductor his returning to the platform;
                            The soloist was magnificent.



                            Aaaaaaaaargh!





                            Such a good concert, but we don't need a wittering presenter to tell us what we can already see and hear.

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                            • Eine Alpensinfonie
                              Host
                              • Nov 2010
                              • 20570

                              #44
                              Originally posted by johnn10 View Post
                              The reason she stuck to those points was probably due to the fact that there was nothing else on the autocue.
                              Why does she need to say anything?

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                              • EdgeleyRob
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                                • Nov 2010
                                • 12180

                                #45
                                Originally posted by bluestateprommer View Post
                                Very well played Alexander Nevsky in the 2nd half, with all parties on cracking form (Borodina, Oramo, the BBC SO, Symphony Chorus, & National Chorus of Wales). Maybe not quite as rock'-em / sock'-em / razzle-dazzle as Belshazzar's Feast at last year's First Night, but very satisfying on its own terms. It seemed a slightly odd moment of musical entrance when Borodina first sang, but then she took over completely, and fittingly as a native Russian singer. Solid start to this Proms season.

                                (PS: On the radio presentation, while Petroc and CBH can be a bit much, in the grand scheme of things, they're fundamentally decent people, and I wouldn't direct any ill feelings at them. There are much more important things to get angry about. I save my anger for the appalling Republican US president/vice-president ticket.)



                                You're right of course,but the radio and tv presentation is unbearable.
                                TBF they are probably just doing as they're told.
                                The concert itself was superb.

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