The 2016 Proms Season: what are your thoughts?

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  • MrGongGong
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    • Nov 2010
    • 18357

    #76
    Originally posted by Demetrius View Post
    Sir Harrison Birtwistle The message
    After the rapturously received Smiths tribute in 1995
    Harry turns his attention to Grandmaster Flash for this years mashup?

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    • teamsaint
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      • Nov 2010
      • 25210

      #77
      Originally posted by Beef Oven! View Post
      1. Art
      2. Popularity
      those would be 4 and 3?
      I will not be pushed, filed, stamped, indexed, briefed, debriefed or numbered. My life is my own.

      I am not a number, I am a free man.

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      • Bryn
        Banned
        • Mar 2007
        • 24688

        #78
        Originally posted by MrGongGong View Post
        After the rapturously received Smiths tribute in 1995
        Harry turns his attention to Grandmaster Flash for this years mashup?
        A fine panegyric, indeed.

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        • Pulcinella
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          • Feb 2014
          • 10973

          #79
          Originally posted by Bryn View Post
          A fine panegyric, indeed.

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          • Alison
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            • Nov 2010
            • 6461

            #80
            I take the return to the Round House as a positive.

            Will be interested to hear Bayan Northcott's Concerto for Orchestra.

            He is certainly a more interesting writer on music than Malcolm Hayes so I am expecting that to come out in the compositions!

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            • CallMePaul
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              • Jan 2014
              • 791

              #81
              Originally posted by Rcartes View Post
              Agree there are some really good concerts (Haitink, Barenboim, Rattle, Fischer etc) but oh the amount of slop: presudo jazz and pop. David Bowie (Prom 19), Quincey Jones (Prom 49) and Jamie Cullum FFS (Prom 36) all look awful and totally out of place. But worst is the Strictly Prom (8): why?

              Really, despite the good parts there's so much stuff that shouldn't be there.
              Within the context of a classical music festival, a more appropriate tribute to David Bowie would surely have been either or both of the symphonies by Philip Glass based on Bowie's Heroes and Low albums (2 of Bowie's best IMO). And can someone please enlighten me as to who is Quincy Jones?
              Last edited by CallMePaul; 14-04-16, 08:58. Reason: Correction of typo

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              • Beef Oven!
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                • Sep 2013
                • 18147

                #82
                Originally posted by teamsaint View Post
                those would be 4 and 3?
                I agree that I got them the wrong way around, but given that the Proms is not an exemplar for the generation of super-normal profits, they would be 2 & 1, IMV.

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                • french frank
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                  • Feb 2007
                  • 30331

                  #83
                  Originally posted by Rcartes View Post
                  but oh the amount of slop: presudo jazz and pop. David Bowie (Prom 19), Quincey Jones (Prom 49) and Jamie Cullum FFS (Prom 36) all look awful and totally out of place. But worst is the Strictly Prom (8): why?

                  And "George and Ira Gershwin Rediscovered": they were never undiscovered!

                  Really, despite the good parts there's so much stuff that shouldn't be there.
                  What else shouldn't be there? There are 75 'Proms', plus PCMs. I think there have been two John Wilson concerts in the past, only one this year; a bit of jazz - doesn't look the greatest ever; I shall neither watch nor listen to the Strictly Prom - but shall wait to hear whether the emphasis is on the music rather than the dancing/personalities.

                  Bowie? I'm told he was great, but regardless of the music, I don't really think concerts dedicated to just one contemporary popular musician (alive or dead) are particularly 'appropriate', and would prefer a Late Night Prom to be a mix of contemporary works - where the popular artists might be included. But that's theoretical: as I wouldn't watch/listen to either, I'm not that bothered. I think there's less to 'complain about' on this particular score than there has been in the past.
                  It isn't given us to know those rare moments when people are wide open and the lightest touch can wither or heal. A moment too late and we can never reach them any more in this world.

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                  • zola
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                    • May 2011
                    • 656

                    #84
                    Originally posted by CallMePaul View Post
                    And can someone please enlighten me as to who is Quincy Jones?
                    A hugely significant figure in Afro-American culture.

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                    • Beef Oven!
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                      • Sep 2013
                      • 18147

                      #85
                      Originally posted by CallMePaul View Post
                      Within the context of a classical music festival, a more appropriate tribute to David Bowie would surely have been either or both of the symphonies by Philip Glass based on Bowie's Heroes and Low albums (2 of Bowie's best IMO). And can someone please enlighten me as to who is Quincy Jones?
                      Philip Glass's 'Bowie' symphonies are IMV, best forgotten.

                      Find out all about Quincy Jones and the amazing AKG headphones named after him here.

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                      • MrGongGong
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                        • Nov 2010
                        • 18357

                        #86
                        Originally posted by CallMePaul View Post
                        Within the context of a classical music festival, a more appropriate tribute to David Bowie would surely have been either or both of the symphonies by Philip Glass based on Bowie's Heroes and Low albums (2 of Bowie's best IMO). And can someone please enlighten me as to who is Quincy Jones?
                        Is your internet broken?

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                        • Anastasius
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                          • Mar 2015
                          • 1842

                          #87
                          Originally posted by Colonel Danby View Post
                          I shall queue for Mahler 3 conducted by Uncle Bernie at the Proms from an early hour this summer. However I also have tickets for the same work conducted by Chailly in his farewell concert in the Gewandhaus Leipitz in May, my favourite Mahler work...
                          I know which one I'd prefer to go to. I know a lot of people rave over Haitink's conducting of Mahler but I find him stodgy in the extreme. Having said that if the Weekend Pass extends to include the Friday then that particular weekend is rather good IMO.

                          I now what some are saying about factoring in the cost of travel etc. For me, the diesel cost is around £70 return and so that's why I will go for Weekend Passes. I'm fortunate in tat I can also combine it with a visit to the mother.

                          Not sure about the external concert locations...Peckham, for instance. How does one actually get to Peckham ? especially if one does not like using the tube and assuming said Peckham is actually on the tube network.
                          Fewer Smart things. More smart people.

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                          • Prommer
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                            • Dec 2010
                            • 1259

                            #88
                            Originally posted by Rcartes View Post
                            But worst is the Strictly Prom (8): why?
                            Er, Katie Derham?

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                            • teamsaint
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                              • Nov 2010
                              • 25210

                              #89
                              Originally posted by Anastasius View Post
                              I know which one I'd prefer to go to. I know a lot of people rave over Haitink's conducting of Mahler but I find him stodgy in the extreme. Having said that if the Weekend Pass extends to include the Friday then that particular weekend is rather good IMO.

                              I now what some are saying about factoring in the cost of travel etc. For me, the diesel cost is around £70 return and so that's why I will go for Weekend Passes. I'm fortunate in tat I can also combine it with a visit to the mother.

                              Not sure about the external concert locations...Peckham, for instance. How does one actually get to Peckham ? especially if one does not like using the tube and assuming said Peckham is actually on the tube network.
                              Robin Reliant?
                              I will not be pushed, filed, stamped, indexed, briefed, debriefed or numbered. My life is my own.

                              I am not a number, I am a free man.

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                              • MrGongGong
                                Full Member
                                • Nov 2010
                                • 18357

                                #90
                                Originally posted by Anastasius View Post
                                Not sure about the external concert locations...Peckham, for instance. How does one actually get to Peckham ? especially if one does not like using the tube and assuming said Peckham is actually on the tube network.
                                Train from London Bridge
                                OR on the BUS (there are lots)
                                The car park has for several years been used for this, a great idea, not sure what the "Bufton's" will make of the ambience though

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