Your wishes for 2016 (Music-related suggestions only please)

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  • MrGongGong
    Full Member
    • Nov 2010
    • 18357

    #61
    Originally posted by bluestateprommer View Post
    At the risk of sounding like a Debbie Downer, this whole thread is moot, of course, since the Proms planning works according to a 3-year advance schedule (as noted in another thread).
    You don't seem to "get it", do you?
    So when people say to you something like
    "who would be in your fantasy string quartet/metal band/baseball team/movie" you tell them to stop fantasising and that Hendrix is dead

    IT'S A GAME
    IT'S A LOAD OF FOLKS ON THE INTERNET IMAGINING THINGS

    which is great IMV

    now I must go as i'm almost there with the Rattigan, Shilkloper, Eastop, Brain horn quartet I promised to fix ( "Brain dead" you say )

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    • french frank
      Administrator/Moderator
      • Feb 2007
      • 30331

      #62
      Originally posted by MrGongGong View Post
      You don't seem to "get it", do you?
      Oh, I think bsp did "get it", and was joining in by saying "it's perhaps not too imaginative to hope for return appearances by Daniel Barenboim and Bernard Haitink next summer, as 2016 will mark the 50th anniversary of both of their Proms debuts &c". Perhaps you were it a bit of a hurry and didn't get that far?
      It isn't given us to know those rare moments when people are wide open and the lightest touch can wither or heal. A moment too late and we can never reach them any more in this world.

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      • MrGongGong
        Full Member
        • Nov 2010
        • 18357

        #63
        Originally posted by french frank View Post
        Perhaps you were it a bit of a hurry and didn't get that far?
        It was very early your honour

        Indeed you are correct ... sorry

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        • french frank
          Administrator/Moderator
          • Feb 2007
          • 30331

          #64
          Originally posted by MrGongGong View Post
          It was very early your honour

          Indeed you are correct ... sorry
          It isn't given us to know those rare moments when people are wide open and the lightest touch can wither or heal. A moment too late and we can never reach them any more in this world.

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          • Barbirollians
            Full Member
            • Nov 2010
            • 11709

            #65
            Martha Argerich - missing from the Proms for a few years now . Playing the Tchaikovsky Piano Concerto NO 1 with Andris Nelsons conducting .

            Milford's Violin Concerto , Harty's Irish Symphony - Aus Italien , Maria Joao Pires playing whatever she likes , Das Lied Von der Erde with Jonas Kaufmann and AS von Otter and as we cannot have Abbado anymore Chailly will do , a complete VW symphony cycle from Halle/Elder and Elgar 1 from Barenboim and Dresden ,the LSO/Rattle in Debussy and Ravel … a whole concert of Lachenmann and ferneyhough ( fixed on a date when I am on holiday ) and Beethoven 9 back on the penultimate night !

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            • Serial_Apologist
              Full Member
              • Dec 2010
              • 37714

              #66
              I'd like to see a big revival of interest in composing in tone rows. Nothing much that is genuinely new in terms of "expanding the permissible in the empire of sound", as Debussy is said to have said to Stravinsky after hearing "The Rite", seems to be happening with the stuff of music, which for me as I near 70 is the good old dependable chromatic scale with its 12 tones. Or 13 if you count C twice. Ok so you have electronic manipulations of sound etc but that's fiddling at the edges. We need to get composers out of the habit of thinking everything harmonic has to resolve. It's as if Stanford were still alive!!! As Ives said to his teacher, "chords don't have to resolve if they don't want to" - and he was one of the first to think in terms of pitch sets. People still say, "Oh that serial stuff, it deprives the composer of spontaneous inspiration and is all mechanical", or "There are no tunes in 12-tone music", and to them I say two things: first composers before Schoenberg, Hauer and Ives used tone rows, including rock star forerunner Franz Liszt; second, Schoenberg found that his way of disciplining the language he inherited from Brahms and Wagner by tightening things up and repeating pitches as little of possible had spontaneously been leading towards his 12-tone method, so composing in it became automatic; and thirdly, his serial works are FULL of tunes: try the Piano Concerto; discover the final cadenza in the Violin Concerto, where he states the row, then re-states it upside down: it's a great singalong! Zappa had his musicians playing tone rows in The Mothers of Invention, so even rock music afficionados are intelligent enough to be able to appreciate them!

              That's three things, by the way.

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              • ferneyhoughgeliebte
                Gone fishin'
                • Sep 2011
                • 30163

                #67
                Originally posted by barbirollians View Post
                a whole concert of lachenmann and ferneyhough
                each!
                [FONT=Comic Sans MS][I][B]Numquam Satis![/B][/I][/FONT]

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                • ferneyhoughgeliebte
                  Gone fishin'
                  • Sep 2011
                  • 30163

                  #68
                  Originally posted by Serial_Apologist View Post
                  Nothing much that is genuinely new in terms of "expanding the permissible in the empire of sound", as Debussy is said to have said to Stravinsky after hearing "The Rite", seems to be happening with the stuff of music, which for me as I near 70 is the good old dependable chromatic scale with its 12 tones.
                  You desperately need to be nearer to Huddersfield, S_A.
                  [FONT=Comic Sans MS][I][B]Numquam Satis![/B][/I][/FONT]

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                  • Serial_Apologist
                    Full Member
                    • Dec 2010
                    • 37714

                    #69
                    Originally posted by ferneyhoughgeliebte View Post
                    You desperately need to be nearer to Huddersfield, S_A.
                    Eh oop lad! My ex-next doors moved to Huddersfield, despite my warning them that there's no culture in't north. They love it there.

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                    • ferneyhoughgeliebte
                      Gone fishin'
                      • Sep 2011
                      • 30163

                      #70


                      (Please don't spoil it and tell us that they're fans of Last of the Summer Wine! )
                      [FONT=Comic Sans MS][I][B]Numquam Satis![/B][/I][/FONT]

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                      • eighthobstruction
                        Full Member
                        • Nov 2010
                        • 6444

                        #71
                        I see 'love' was in 'italics'....'....'

                        ....eee they'll be reet for the Ali Lullas Kormas.....
                        bong ching

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                        • verismissimo
                          Full Member
                          • Nov 2010
                          • 2957

                          #72
                          A Haydn symphony cycle?

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                          • verismissimo
                            Full Member
                            • Nov 2010
                            • 2957

                            #73
                            Originally posted by verismissimo View Post
                            A Haydn symphony cycle?
                            Good diverse collection of orchestras and conductors/directors. Would be fab.

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                            • seabright
                              Full Member
                              • Jan 2013
                              • 625

                              #74
                              The Proms Premieres of Respighi's "Brazilian Impressions" and "Metamorphoseon," plus his "Toccata" for Piano and Orchestra, and the Piano Concerto in A minor, and above all his "Church Windows" for the hugely spectacular organ solo in the finale ...

                              Enjoy the videos and music you love, upload original content, and share it all with friends, family, and the world on YouTube.

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                              • Barbirollians
                                Full Member
                                • Nov 2010
                                • 11709

                                #75
                                I see Martha Argerich is down to play the Liszt 1 with Barenboim and the West Divan orchestra in Berlin next August - as they are regular fixtures at the Proms might we hope for the return of the great Martha - missing from the Proms for a few years now .

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