Prom 76: Last Night of the Proms 2015 (12.09.15)

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  • Prommer
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    • Dec 2010
    • 1273

    #16
    I could without Alsop: a journeyman, with the very best will in the world.

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    • pastoralguy
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      • Nov 2010
      • 7820

      #17
      Originally posted by Prommer View Post
      I could without Alsop: a journeyman, with the very best will in the world.
      Sorry but have to disagree there. We in Scotland heard her do some terrific concerts with the RSNO. I always thought they missed a trick in not promoting her to Music Director when the job came up.

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      • Prommer
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        • Dec 2010
        • 1273

        #18
        Originally posted by pastoralguy View Post
        Sorry but have to disagree there. We in Scotland heard her do some terrific concerts with the RSNO. I always thought they missed a trick in not promoting her to Music Director when the job came up.
        With personal knowledge, they obviously decided to pass up the trick! She's not a bad stick waver... just not very inspiring artistically, and for an event like this, rather low in the charisma and humour stakes.

        But having said that, who has recently been able to pull off the Last Night? Nearly all men, and nearly all rather flat too.

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        • Eine Alpensinfonie
          Host
          • Nov 2010
          • 20576

          #19
          In these days of BBC economies, why do they need TWO idXXXX../Radio 3 presenters when one could do an equally brilliant job?
          Last edited by Eine Alpensinfonie; 12-09-15, 22:43.

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          • Flosshilde
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            • Nov 2010
            • 7988

            #20
            Originally posted by Prommer View Post
            The Puccini he will sing is clearly to publicise his new Puccini album... his Nessun Dorma (though it is a hackneyed number) will be interesting on the level of: what will he do with it?
            Rather extravagent to employ him to sing three arias. And he made some rather odd noises during Nessun dorma.


            I am sleepless at the prospect.
            Not in Seattle, I hope

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            • mrbouffant
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              • Aug 2011
              • 207

              #21
              However much I love Parry's music, when you put Elgar's orchestration of Jerusalem alongside the original it really just miturates all over it.

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              • jonfan
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                • Dec 2010
                • 1452

                #22
                Come on people, lighten up. It's a party and a damn good one too. The quieter moments were as equally effective as the noisy ones. Roll on next July, can't wait.

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                • Eine Alpensinfonie
                  Host
                  • Nov 2010
                  • 20576

                  #23
                  Originally posted by mrbouffant
                  And bring back Richard Baker.
                  He's 90.

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                  • Roehre

                    #24
                    Originally posted by jonfan View Post
                    Come on people, lighten up. It's a party and a damn good one too. The quieter moments were as equally effective as the noisy ones. Roll on next July, can't wait.
                    Only did the part before the interval, but that was certainly enjoyable too.
                    Till Eulenspiegel was my "first" Richard Strauss some 40 years ago, sweet memories

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                    • Bert Coules
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                      • Nov 2010
                      • 763

                      #25
                      Even on the current broad-spectrum R3 I thought that The Sound of Music sat a little uneasily on the programme, but given that they showed that lovely archive clip of Henry Wood himself saying how pleased he is that the Proms presents all manner of music, it would surely be churlish to complain.

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                      • Pabmusic
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                        • May 2011
                        • 5537

                        #26
                        Originally posted by mrbouffant View Post
                        However much I love Parry's music, when you put Elgar's orchestration of Jerusalem alongside the original it really just miturates all over it.
                        You're comparing apples with oranges. Parry's 1918 orchestration in fine, small-scale and supports the tune well. Elgar's 1922 version is big-scale, for a huge orchestra and organ, and intended for a festival atmosphere (Leeds Festival). It's entirely appropriate that Elgar's is used at the Proms, but it's way OTT for many occasions.

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                        • mrbouffant
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                          • Aug 2011
                          • 207

                          #27
                          Originally posted by Pabmusic View Post
                          You're comparing apples with oranges. Parry's 1918 orchestration in fine, small-scale and supports the tune well. Elgar's 1922 version is big-scale, for a huge orchestra and organ, and intended for a festival atmosphere (Leeds Festival). It's entirely appropriate that Elgar's is used at the Proms, but it's way OTT for many occasions.
                          Interesting! Thanks Pab.

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                          • peterkin
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                            • Jun 2015
                            • 33

                            #28
                            Originally posted by jonfan View Post
                            Come on people, lighten up. It's a party and a damn good one too. The quieter moments were as equally effective as the noisy ones. Roll on next July, can't wait.

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                            • Pabmusic
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                              • May 2011
                              • 5537

                              #29
                              Originally posted by mrbouffant View Post
                              Interesting! Thanks Pab.
                              I should have added that Jerusalem was originally (1916) for unison voices and organ, but Parry's orchestration was made for the Suffrage Demonstration Concert at the Queen's Hall on March 13th, 1918. This was the first time it was called Jerusalem; before that it had been "And did those feet in ancient time".

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                              • verismissimo
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                                • Nov 2010
                                • 2957

                                #30
                                Originally posted by mrbouffant View Post
                                ... it really just miturates all over it.
                                Or even micturates, Mr B?

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