My hopes are pretty high for this, mainly because he isn't doing it with a bunch like the BPO, where you so often have to compromise what you want (at least it sounds that way to me) and fall in with doing things their way. I would hope that the COE would be more willing to play it exactly how he wants it without coming up against grumbling veterans who want to preserve an orchestra's particular sound. He famously isn't much of a talker in rehearsal (or anywhere else, it seems) and I think we hear the best results from him where there isn't a clash of egos. I think the LSO are a good fit for him in this respect, and I hope we'll get the same tomorrow night with the COE.
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This could well be a great concert and a relief after the highly trumoeted but dire concert given by Barenboim.
One of the greatest ever Mozart interpreters, a fine conductor, and hopefully an orchestra that can make a great leap and play on another level.Comment
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They're not playing Webern, so there shouldn't be any need to leap more than an octave.Originally posted by wenotsoira View PostComment
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Yes, the way he tried to make Tchaikovsky sound like Bruckner was baffling. I don't know whether he is such a control freak that he allows his players no room to breathe and everything sounds dead, or he is just not good enough as a conductor to get away with those slow tempi, but it was an odd experience standing there listening to it. I often wonder about his reputation among orchestras; perhaps they all think he really is the reincarnation of WF and we are missing something, or he is a great musician who happens to be a rather average conductor.Originally posted by wenotsoira View PostComment
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Or, perhaps, they just don't share your low opinion of his conducting abilities, Db?[FONT=Comic Sans MS][I][B]Numquam Satis![/B][/I][/FONT]Comment
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I have seen him a lot over the years. Sometimes it works (I remember a terrific Mahler 1 with the WED), more often he doesn't convince me. I know it is a minority view. It's just that he always looks like he has made himself into a conductor by the force of his personality and musical ability, (rather than having that indefinable something that separates the sheep from the goats), which gives his performances a feeling of being over-intellectual and slightly contrived. I recall hearing his Proms Gotterdammerung and couldn't help feeling that Runnicles made a far better job of it a few years earlier.Originally posted by ferneyhoughgeliebte View Post
While we are making confessions, I don't like Bryn Terfel either.
I'll go and stand in the corner.Comment
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Yes, that's a very good description. I think he has lost it, a great painist once, and a good conductor, but it's all gone a bit pear shaped. He should have retired about 5 years ago. But he won't give up.Originally posted by Darkbloom View PostComment
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I'd never have guessed!Originally posted by Darkbloom View Post
The point I sought to make was that the orchestral Musicians who pay him to work with them do not (necessarily - some probably do) share your low opinion and that therefore your musings about how they might feel working with him may well be completely off the mark.
He does make some dreadful noises in the name of singing, doesn't he!While we are making confessions, I don't like Bryn Terfel either.[FONT=Comic Sans MS][I][B]Numquam Satis![/B][/I][/FONT]Comment
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Having previously described him as "Furtwängler-lite" and were I to confine myself to his - to me, stodgy - late Bruckner, I'd agree with this rather damning verdict but then I think of his Schönberg or, pulling-of-tempi-around-just-a-touch, Elgar 2nd or his Boulez with WEDO a couple of years ago. So I think that he's a bit more than "average" - and, as is said, a great musician and inspirationally humanitarian. OK, he's not in the Haitink league as a a conductor but, then, when did you hear BH play Brahms's Second Piano Concerto so beautifully as on the recent Decca CD?Originally posted by Darkbloom View PostComment
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Indeed, can't wait to read Pet's review.Originally posted by Alison View Post
I just havered and hovered with, in my virtual RAH 'basket', one of the (rather expensive) few decent seats that remain available this evening for tomorrow's concert - having just become free to attend.
Decided against it. Arghghgh... am I mad? - Pires (
), Haitink (
), K488 (
), Great C Major (
)...
but... Albert Hall acoustic (
), small band (
), noisy prommers (
)...
Nahh... I'll keep my money. (V expensive trip to "L'Enfant et les Sortilèges" in Sussex on Sunday...)
And then I'll kick myself in about 28 hours' time when Pet says it was one of the 5 best concerts of his life
Still undecided, after all that! 
"...the isle is full of noises,
Sounds and sweet airs, that give delight and hurt not.
Sometimes a thousand twangling instruments
Will hum about mine ears, and sometime voices..."
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Ain't it on the telly as well Cali ?Comment
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Originally posted by Caliban View PostIndeed, can't wait to read Pet's review.
I just havered and hovered with, in my virtual RAH 'basket', one of the (rather expensive) few decent seats that remain available this evening for tomorrow's concert - having just become free to attend.
Decided against it. Arghghgh... am I mad? - Pires ( ), Haitink (), K488 (), Great C Major ()...
but... Albert Hall acoustic (), small band (), noisy prommers ()...
Nahh... I'll keep my money. (V expensive trip to "L'Enfant et les Sortilèges" in Sussex on Sunday...)
And then I'll kick myself in about 28 hours' time when Pet says it was one of the 5 best concerts of his life
Still undecided, after all that!
Afraid I'll have to keep you in suspense until Monday, as I'm also at the San Francisco SO Prom on Sunday. Thought about Kullervo on Saturday but decided against so got a 'free' day. I'm not going to struggle to phone in a review."The sound is the handwriting of the conductor" - Bernard HaitinkComment
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Originally posted by Alison View Post
"...the isle is full of noises,
Sounds and sweet airs, that give delight and hurt not.
Sometimes a thousand twangling instruments
Will hum about mine ears, and sometime voices..."
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Rep don't attract me much, but I do love this orchestra - that Nezet-Seguin Schumann set is an icon around here...
I'll see who's on Any Questions - if it gets boring I'll come over and lend an ear...Comment
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Not even the Great C Major Jayne ?Originally posted by jayne lee wilson View Post
The seeds of your man Bruckner's Symphonies are here aren't they ?Comment
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