Prom 44: West–Eastern Divan Orchestra/Barenboim (18.05.15)/Tchaikovsky

[Eine Alpensinfonie]

19:30
Royal Albert Hall

Live at the BBC Proms: Daniel Barenboim conducts the West-Eastern Divan Orchestra in a Beethoven concerto and highly contrasting symphonies by the young Schönberg and Tchaikovsky

Schönberg: Chamber Symphony No. 1 in E major, Op 9
Beethoven: Concerto in C major for violin, cello and piano, Op 56 (Triple Concerto)
Tchaikovsky: Symphony No. 4 in F minor, Op. 36

Guy Braunstein (violin)
Kian Soltani (cello)
West-Eastern Divan Orchestra
Daniel Barenboim (piano/conductor)


Daniel Barenboim returns to the Proms, this time as both conductor and soloist, taking the piano part in Beethoven's Triple Concerto. Schoenberg's Chamber Symphony startled audiences with its ruthless concision - a reaction against the excesses of the late-Romantics. But excess gets the last word, in Tchaikovsky's Fourth Symphony, the musical expression of some of its composer's most troubled and heartfelt emotions.

[richardfinegold]

Tchaikovsky

I haven't seen any discussion of Tchaikovsky Symphonies at this years Proms. They used to be such a basic staple of Orchestral Programming.

[Eine Alpensinfonie]

Barenboim conducts the 4th Symphony on Tuesday, 18th of August. The thread will be open tomorrow.

[cloughie]

Barenboim conducts the 4th Symphony on Tuesday, 18th of August. The thread will be open tomorrow.

His NYPO 4th is one of a number of Barenboim's CBS, now Sony, recordings from the 70s not to have appeared on CD.

[ferneyhoughgeliebte]

His NYPO 4th is one of a number of Barenboim's CBS, now Sony, recordings from the 70s not to have appeared on CD.

Didn't that come with a copy of the score?

(And, yes - a CBS/SONY "Barenboim Edition" would be terrific: Elgar, Berlioz, too!)

[cloughie]

Didn't that come with a copy of the score?

(And, yes - a CBS/SONY "Barenboim Edition" would be terrific: Elgar, Berlioz, too!)

Quite a lot of the Elgar is in the Sony English Music Box, but the French stuff is mostly unrereleased, including A L'Apres-midi, Escales and Daphnis Suite 2.

[richardfinegold]

I didn't realize that DB ever recorded with NY. I cut my teeth on the 4th with Bernstein's mid 70s NY recording.
I was listening to Pletnev on Pentatone yesterday, which I think is superb.

[ferneyhoughgeliebte]

I didn't realize that DB ever recorded with NY.

This one:

http://www.amazon.co.uk/gp/product/B0046SEXQO?keywords=tchaikovsky%204%2C%20barenboim%2C%20new%20york%2C%20cbs&qid=1439206180&ref_=sr_1_1&sr=8-1

... 'tho' I'd forgotten that cover and had thought of the re-release:

http://www.amazon.co.uk/gp/product/B00CHSID7K?keywords=tchaikovsky%204%2C%20barenboim%2C%20new%20york%2C%20cbs&qid=1439206180&ref_=sr_1_3&sr=8-3

There aren't many NYPO recordings with Barenboim conducting (there's a Beethoven Violin Concerto with Stern) - or as a pianist; the two Brahms Piano Concertos (with Mehta conducting) I think are the only ones.

[BBMmk2]

I have just plalyed Andris Nelson's Manfred, coincidentally. Very full bodied account! :)

[Eine Alpensinfonie]

A bit of a corker, this one.

[ferneyhoughgeliebte]

I've been trying to find out if this is going to use the version of the First Chamber Symphony for larger forces that Schoenberg arranged whilst living in the US (IIRC) at around the same time as he completed the Second and published by Schirmer. Anybody know?

[Beef Oven!]

I've been trying to find out if this is going to use the version of the First Chamber Symphony for larger forces that Schoenberg arranged whilst living in the US (IIRC) at around the same time as he completed the Second and published by Schirmer. Anybody know?

You're not that old, surely?

[Roehre]

I've been trying to find out if this is going to use the version of the First Chamber Symphony for larger forces that Schoenberg arranged whilst living in the US (IIRC) at around the same time as he completed the Second and published by Schirmer. Anybody know?

The Kammersymphonie opus 9b (orchestrated and premiered in 1935, i.e. 4 years before the 2nd Chamber symphony eventually was completed) has got an orchestration of
Piccolo, 2 flutes, 2 oboes, cor anglais, Eb-clarinet, A-clarinet, Bass-clarinet Bb, 2 bassoons, contra bassoon, 4 horn in F, 2 Trumpets, 3 trombones and strings.
Not quite a chamber symphony anymore in my humble point of view, I'm sure .
It would make sense that the concert includes this version in stead of the original 15 instruments, but I don't know whether that's the case.

Eiliahu Inbal recorded the work at least twice [Philips and Denon], both with RSO Frankfurt, one of which Youtubed here, the Denon available through the river people.

[Eine Alpensinfonie]

I've merged the Proms 44 thread with the "Tchaikovsky" one, since the latter was opened to discuss Tchaikovsky symphonies at the Proms.

[Flay]

Anybody know?

The programme (also on the W-E Div site) says Op. 9 not Op. 9b so one would expect smaller forces. Which would be a shame.