Prom 43: Sibelius – Symphonies 5, 6 & 7 (17.08.15)

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  • Beef Oven!
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    • Sep 2013
    • 18147

    #16
    Originally posted by teamsaint View Post
    I was in the arena tonight. The thought that I had about the opening movement of the fifth was that I had the strong feeling of ( some of) the players having to be led through the movement, but " tentative" would do at least as well. I felt the second movement was done justice to, and I really enjoyed the third movement, which seemed to me to have a lovely flow.

    I learned a lot about the 6th from hearing it close up and personal.
    The 7th was excellent. It must be a difficult piece to conduct, and Vanska seemed to have kept his most intense efforts for it.
    i might think of more to say in the morning,but got to be up early for work.

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    • Nick Armstrong
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      • Nov 2010
      • 26575

      #17
      Originally posted by Beef Oven! View Post
      However, I must single out the woodwind they were really stellar tonight!

      I had the pleasure of the company teamsaint and his daughter and fiancee, who may have seen/heard it differently!
      No stoppin' you, Beefy.

      I have No 7 recorded for a proper listen. What did you think of that in particular? Teams seems to think it was the best of the lot in the concert.

      .

      PS: Maybe in your post, that should be fiancé? (Call me old-fashioned).
      "...the isle is full of noises,
      Sounds and sweet airs, that give delight and hurt not.
      Sometimes a thousand twangling instruments
      Will hum about mine ears, and sometime voices..."

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      • french frank
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        • Feb 2007
        • 30520

        #18
        Originally posted by Caliban View Post
        PS: Maybe in your post, that should be fiancé? (Call me old-fashioned).
        Not team's fiancée, then?
        It isn't given us to know those rare moments when people are wide open and the lightest touch can wither or heal. A moment too late and we can never reach them any more in this world.

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        • Pulcinella
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          • Feb 2014
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          #19
          Originally posted by Caliban View Post


          PS: Maybe in your post, that should be fiancé? (Call me old-fashioned).
          I'd say you were making an assumption, which might or might not be associated with either being old fashioned or with a typo from Beefy! Covered by your 'maybe', of course!

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          • Pulcinella
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            • Feb 2014
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            #20
            Originally posted by french frank View Post
            Not team's fiancée, then?
            But there is a Mrs ts; remember, he wasn't going to let her charge £5 for an interval sandwich!

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            • ferneyhoughgeliebte
              Gone fishin'
              • Sep 2011
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              #21
              Originally posted by Pulcinella View Post
              But there is a Mrs ts; remember, he wasn't going to let her charge £5 for an interval sandwich!
              Which might, of course, have led to a (very rapid) chain of events resulting in ts currently having a fiancée (who offers cheaper sandwiches).
              [FONT=Comic Sans MS][I][B]Numquam Satis![/B][/I][/FONT]

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              • Beef Oven!
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                • Sep 2013
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                #22
                Originally posted by Caliban View Post
                No stoppin' you, Beefy.



                I have No 7 recorded for a proper listen. What did you think of that in particular? Teams seems to think it was the best of the lot in the concert.

                I'd be with teamsaint on that, but again I'm not sure whether it was because it's better music than that which went before. Of course 5 & 6 are examples of wonderful music.


                PS: Maybe in your post, that should be fiancé? (Call me old-fashioned).

                Sploody bellcheck!

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                • teamsaint
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                  • Nov 2010
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                  #23
                  TS junior # 3 will be surprised and no do doubt delighted to find herself with a new fiancé ....unless she has some news she has shared with Beefy but not with me !
                  Last edited by teamsaint; 18-08-15, 08:37.
                  I will not be pushed, filed, stamped, indexed, briefed, debriefed or numbered. My life is my own.

                  I am not a number, I am a free man.

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                  • Pulcinella
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                    • Feb 2014
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                    #24
                    Originally posted by ferneyhoughgeliebte View Post
                    Which might, of course, have led to a (very rapid) chain of events resulting in ts currently having a fiancée (who offers cheaper sandwiches).
                    Well he has invited me to drop in for a bite if ever I'm down his way!
                    I wonder whose sandwiches would be on offer!

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                    • Bryn
                      Banned
                      • Mar 2007
                      • 24688

                      #25
                      Originally posted by Pulcinella View Post
                      Well he has invited me to drop in for a bite if ever I'm down his way!
                      I wonder whose sandwiches would be on offer!

                      If it's an open invitation, perhaps you will be offered open sandwiches?

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                      • Pulcinella
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                        • Feb 2014
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                        #26
                        Originally posted by Bryn View Post
                        If it's an open invitation, perhaps you will be offered open sandwiches?
                        And if you're in ts's club, .........

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                        • Nick Armstrong
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                          • Nov 2010
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                          #27
                          Originally posted by teamsaint View Post
                          TS junior # 3 will be surprised and no do doubt delighted to find herself with a new fiancé ....unless she has some news she has shared with Beefy but not with me !
                          What was going on in the RAH last night?!!!



                          Originally posted by Pulcinella View Post
                          Well he has invited me to drop in for a bite if ever I'm down his way!
                          I wonder whose sandwiches would be on offer!
                          It all sounds very euphemistic to me
                          "...the isle is full of noises,
                          Sounds and sweet airs, that give delight and hurt not.
                          Sometimes a thousand twangling instruments
                          Will hum about mine ears, and sometime voices..."

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                          • teamsaint
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                            • Nov 2010
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                            #28
                            Sorry, can't join in the banter.
                            I am out earning a crust.
                            I will not be pushed, filed, stamped, indexed, briefed, debriefed or numbered. My life is my own.

                            I am not a number, I am a free man.

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                            • Hornspieler
                              Late Member
                              • Sep 2012
                              • 1847

                              #29
                              Originally posted by kernelbogey View Post
                              I enjoyed the fifth; the sixth was a revelation - I'm not at all sure that I've ever heard it before, or at least with concentration.

                              It all came abruptly to an end, while I was enjoying the much-looked-forward to seventh, with a telephone call which took me away from the remainder of the concert.

                              But I'm left with a clear desire to acquire a complete set of Sibelius symphonies, as I own only the second.

                              Recommendations for a box set, please?
                              Paavo Berglund, if a set exists.

                              As a pupil and confidant in the house of the great master, Berglund's must be considered to be the most authoritative readings; but having played them all (and other works) under his baton, I am understandibly biased.

                              Sir Alexander Gibson was a noted interpreter uf Sibelius with the Scottish National Orchestra. Has that influenced the BBC Scottish Orchestra? ( Or is it that Scotland, like Finland, can be a cold place in the Winter months?)

                              I really do get the impression that too much is being asked of the BBC Symphony Orchestra at the present time. They give some good performances, but I do feel that, with all those changes of Leader and Principal players, they are unable to settle in the way that the BBC Scottish, BBC Philharmonic and BBCNOW have, who, to me, sound more comfortable in their performances, regardless of who is on the podium
                              Most orchestras have a recognisable style - the BBCSO is much too variable; depending on all those constant changes of personnel.

                              HS

                              Q "Who's leading the orchestra this week?"

                              A "Which day did you have in mind?"

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                              • Bryn
                                Banned
                                • Mar 2007
                                • 24688

                                #30
                                Originally posted by Hornspieler View Post
                                Paavo Berglund, if a set exists.
                                Three exist, with some south coast provincial band or other (my favourite), with the Helsinki PO , and with the Chamber Orchestra of Europe. Then there are other recordings of individual symphonies, including a couple in the RCO Radio recordings big box.

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