Prom 38: Messiaen – Turangalîla Symphony 13.08.15

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  • Eine Alpensinfonie
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    • Nov 2010
    • 20572

    Prom 38: Messiaen – Turangalîla Symphony 13.08.15

    19:30 Thursday 13 Aug 2015
    Royal Albert Hall

    The BBC Philharmonic and Chief Conductor Juanjo Mena are joined by Steven Osborne and Valérie Hartmann-Claverie live at the BBC Proms.


    Foulds: Three Mantras
    Messiaen: Turangalîla Symphony

    Valérie Hartmann-Claverie (ondes martenot)
    Steven Osborne (piano)
    London Symphony Chorus (women's voices)
    BBC Philharmonic
    Juanjo Mena (conductor)

    Hindu philosophy is the guiding thread through this Prom of music by one of the twentieth century's undisputed masters and one of its neglected mavericks. Messiaen's Turangalîla Symphony translates the 'curious, exquisite, unexpected melodic contours' of the Hindu tradition for Western ears. John Foulds's music was heavily influenced by his spiritual fascination with India; his style shifts in his Three Mantras from the rhythmic violence of Stravinsky to inward meditation and the colourful textures of Ravel.
    Last edited by Eine Alpensinfonie; 05-08-15, 22:22.
  • Eine Alpensinfonie
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    • Nov 2010
    • 20572

    #2
    The first time I heard Turangalila left a lasting impression - in the Free Trade Hall in the 1960s - the only work in the concert, I recall.

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    • Pabmusic
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      • May 2011
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      #3
      What an exciting programme. I'll be listening in.

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      • BBMmk2
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        • Nov 2010
        • 20908

        #4
        My first hearing of the Turangalila was at a Brighton Festival concert with Simon Rattle and CBSO. That was quite an awe inspiring occaision. The Dome rocked to the rafters!
        Don’t cry for me
        I go where music was born

        J S Bach 1685-1750

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        • Nick Armstrong
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          • Nov 2010
          • 26572

          #5
          Originally posted by Pabmusic View Post
          What an exciting programme. I'll be listening in.
          Originally posted by Caliban View Post
          ... I made a tactical strike for seats at one of the Proms I want to go to, and was able (using the 'select your own seat' facility) to cherry-pick two perfectly-situated front side-stalls seats for the Foulds Mantras and Messiaen Turangalîla


          Lots of seats left...
          "...the isle is full of noises,
          Sounds and sweet airs, that give delight and hurt not.
          Sometimes a thousand twangling instruments
          Will hum about mine ears, and sometime voices..."

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          • Pabmusic
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            • May 2011
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            #6
            Originally posted by Caliban View Post


            Lots of seats left...
            If only...
            If only...

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            • Beef Oven!
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              • Sep 2013
              • 18147

              #7
              Originally posted by Caliban View Post


              Lots of seats left...
              I'll be in the arena for that - can't be missed.

              I do have the occasional moan about the Proms programming, but to get the Foulds Three Mantras is absolutely wonderful. And that's saying nothing of the Turangalila!!!!

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              • Serial_Apologist
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                • Dec 2010
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                #8
                How was it Stravinsky described Turangalila? "L'apres-midi d'un super-faun"? And didn't he wonder if Messiaen was jealous of the sonic boom, I seem to remember?

                I've always felt this work exemplified some of the best, but most of the worst, of what this composer offered. For the latter, in general, one needs either to return to 1940 and before, or progress a year to the 4 Studies in Rhythm.

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                • Beef Oven!
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                  • Sep 2013
                  • 18147

                  #9
                  Originally posted by Brassbandmaestro View Post
                  My first hearing of the Turangalila was at a Brighton Festival concert with Simon Rattle and CBSO. That was quite an awe inspiring occaision. The Dome rocked to the rafters!
                  Mine was circa 1991 - was Mrs Oven's first 'classical' gig with me!

                  Unforgettable music, wonderful performance.

                  Predictably maybe, it's my favourite Messiaen work.

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                  • kernelbogey
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                    • Nov 2010
                    • 5803

                    #10
                    Mine an outstanding Proms performance by the Youth Orchestra of GB - heard on R3 - maybe early 1980s; don't remember the conductor.

                    Have just booked for this (thanks for the heads up, Calibs!): to be my first attendance this year.

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                    • Bryn
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                      • Mar 2007
                      • 24688

                      #11
                      Though I first heard the work via Vega LPs of the Le Roux recording, my first live performance can be heard via http://www.cliveheathmusic.co.uk/tapes.php (John Ogdon, Jeanne Loriod, BBCSO, Charles Groves). The morning rehearsals were a revelation.

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                      • Petrushka
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                        • Nov 2010
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                        #12
                        Originally posted by Bryn View Post
                        Though I first heard the work via Vega LPs of the Le Roux recording, my first live performance can be heard via http://www.cliveheathmusic.co.uk/tapes.php (John Ogdon, Jeanne Loriod, BBCSO, Charles Groves). The morning rehearsals were a revelation.
                        That performance is simply magnificent! Thanks once again to Clive for allowing us the opportunity to hear it.

                        My first live Turangalila was on Feb 21 1978 in the Free Trade Hall, Manchester. Messiaen was in attendance and I met him after the concert. I still have the signed concert programme.
                        "The sound is the handwriting of the conductor" - Bernard Haitink

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                        • richardfinegold
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                          • Sep 2012
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                          #13
                          For me, it always sounds like the Soundtrack for the movie "Mars Attacks"

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                          • ferneyhoughgeliebte
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                            • Sep 2011
                            • 30163

                            #14
                            Originally posted by richardfinegold View Post
                            For me, it always sounds like the Soundtrack for the movie "Mars Attacks"
                            You never heard it before 1996, rfg?
                            [FONT=Comic Sans MS][I][B]Numquam Satis![/B][/I][/FONT]

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                            • Bryn
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                              • Mar 2007
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                              #15
                              Originally posted by richardfinegold View Post
                              For me, it always sounds like the Soundtrack for the movie "Mars Attacks"

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