Prom 36: Boulez/Ravel/Stravinsky (12.08.15)

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  • Serial_Apologist
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    • Dec 2010
    • 37814

    #61
    Originally posted by edashtav View Post
    with a "refractory" cell for those who don't "Rechants" five times.
    And compulsory doses of Eno for excessive deployment of clusters.

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    • teamsaint
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      • Nov 2010
      • 25225

      #62
      THe Boulez BBCSO recording can be heard on youtube.

      I will not be pushed, filed, stamped, indexed, briefed, debriefed or numbered. My life is my own.

      I am not a number, I am a free man.

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      • teamsaint
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        • Nov 2010
        • 25225

        #63
        Originally posted by edashtav View Post
        Time, perhaps, for theartsdesk to send Sebastian Scotney up north to the Figures-Doubles-Prismes Boot Camp run by Jayne and her Boolean "double" fhg.
        I'll sign up for the Boulez camp, up north or not !!

        having listened to both the Prom and the Boulez recording, I found I got more from the Boulez/ BBCSO , but then I listened to it second.
        Wonderful and immensely helpful stuff from Ferney and JLW, helping to unlock some of the secrets of this music,

        Oh, and just in case there is a qualification for the boot camp, those awaiting the solo violin at 12.55 in the Boulez recording will have to hold on another minute....

        Edit: just read old Sutton Scotney's review.
        dated?really?
        Last edited by teamsaint; 16-08-15, 21:46.
        I will not be pushed, filed, stamped, indexed, briefed, debriefed or numbered. My life is my own.

        I am not a number, I am a free man.

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        • Serial_Apologist
          Full Member
          • Dec 2010
          • 37814

          #64
          Originally posted by teamsaint View Post
          I'll sign up for the Boulez camp, up north or not !!

          having listened to both the Prom and the Boulez recording, I found I got more from the Boulez/ BBCSO , but then I listened to it second.
          Wonderful and immensely helpful stuff from Ferney and JLW, helping to unlock some of the secrets of this music,

          Oh, and just in case there is a qualification for the boot camp, those awaiting the solo violin at 12.55 in the Boulez will have to hold on another minute....

          Edit: just read old Sutton Scotney's review.
          dated?really?
          So glad you like the Boulez piece, 'cos I was just about to ask if you had, TS. Scotney cites the absence of trills as one later trait not in Figures... but in fact they can be found in the wonderfully creepy suspenseful final pages of the earlier Pli selon pli where the female voice enters before the dramatic cut-off uprush, both of which I feel certain Boulez got from the ending of Erwartung. Personally I prefer pre- to post-1970 Boulez, finding the latter more harmonically circumscribed.

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