Prom 16: Ibiza/Cobblers Prom (29.07.15)

[french frank]

A query - if anyone knows the answer. It's impossible to check now because there are 'No seats available', but when I looked last week, there were still seats in the stalls, but everywhere else was marked 'unavailable', even the circle. Assuming there will be promming at least in the arena (supposing it isn't used for dancing!), does it mean that they were only using the stalls seating for this Prom, or were the rest sold out?

[MrGongGong]

You clearly don’t understand the point of this discussion, so I see no point in continuing.

I do understand the point

which seems to be along the lines of

'aaargh no, the barbarians are at the gates, why oh why oh why is our classical music festival being invaded by this horrible noise?'

'it's not fair that R3 plays dance music and R1 doesn't play Biber'

and so on and so on

[french frank]

IOW, you don't really understand the arguments, or at least, only selectively, via your own biased viewpoint.

Does anyone know if all the seating is being used for this Prom?

I do understand the point

which seems to be along the lines of

'aaargh no, the barbarians are at the gates, why oh why oh why is our classical music festival being invaded by this horrible noise?'

'it's not fair that R3 plays dance music and R1 doesn't play Biber'

and so on and so on

[french frank]

Unfortunately. It's really a festival of 19th & some 20th century main-stream big orchestra music. Chamber music is shunted off into a lunchtime/afternoon ghetto. Perhaps there should be a radical rethink & only have some of the evening concerts in the RAH; others woulkd be in venues suited to smaller ensembles, soloists, opera etc.

Not really OT to pursue here, but if one wished to EXTEND the musical coverage of the Proms ...

[Flosshilde]

Which is what this particular Prom is doing, isn't it?

[french frank]

Which is what this particular Prom is doing, isn't it?

Yes, I was pointing out that if the aim is to EXTEND the music performed, there are several ways to do it, including a boost for chamber music.

[Stunsworth]

I'll be listening. Like last week's Asian prom it's a genre that I know next to nothing about. I'm hoping I enjoy it as much as I did last week's.

[Radio64]

..................of musics.

you're not allowed to say that on here!!!

[Eine Alpensinfonie]

But let's look at the reality, rather than guessing at the ideology.

For years, R3 has been hell-bent on reducing the range of its music by sticking to what it thinks people will like - i.e. dumbing down. This is almost certainly no different.

[Radio64]

We had the Pet Shop Boys last year.

[MrGongGong]

We had the Pet Shop Boys last year.

oooo no you didn't

There seems to have been one exception that is referred to every time this same old argument comes up but that was back in 1970s. Or was it in the 80s? Either way, it has not become a ‘tradition’.

OOOO yes it has

I suspect the arena will be used for dancing

[Radio64]

oooo no you didn't

:

ooh yes we did:

http://www.bbc.co.uk/events/eqprzc

[MrGongGong]

ooh yes we did:

http://www.bbc.co.uk/events/eqprzc

OOOOOO yes we did

like we did before
but

Either way, it has not become a ‘tradition’.

Repeat until people believe it

I'll be listening. Like last week's Asian prom it's a genre that I know next to nothing about. I'm hoping I enjoy it as much as I did last week's.

[french frank]

I'll be listening. Like last week's Asian prom it's a genre that I know next to nothing about. I'm hoping I enjoy it as much as I did last week's.

And don't forget - it will be LIVE on Red Button, so you could watch it too, if you wanted to.

[Stunsworth]

For years, R3 has been hell-bent on reducing the range of its music by sticking to what it thinks people will like - i.e. dumbing down. This is almost certainly no different.

I thought what was under discussion was the unacceptable (to some) broadening of the range of music?