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The section about Riccardo Muti's absurdly haughty response to a bit of premature clapping tends to balance the 'purists' complaint that those who are determined to be the first to clap are simply indicating 'look at me, I'm really clever I know this piece ends here' (or not as the case may be!).
Whilst there may well be some truth in occasional audience attention-seeking, conductors are sometimes the worst offenders when it comes to displaying a similar 'disregard' and 'disrespect' for some in the audience who pay good money to attend (unless the maestri are too busy preening themselves over the almost automatic applause and adulation when they eventually decide to permit it!)
However, I'm sure there will have been plenty of threads already about b****y annoying conductors!
There was an applaud after the first Foulds Mantra this evening - a single clap, by one person, somewhere in the boxes half-way round the hall, cello-side.
(The split second after the final note of the third Mantra, however, some bloke (not far from the applaud) did yelp insanely as if he'd just committed Hara Kiri.)
The OP was quite as virulent than anything that succeeded it.
I've only just looked at it again, and offer my apologies to Flossie.
The OP was hyperbole rather than virulent - wishing that conductor would take a stand rather than just grimacing or rushing headlong into the next movement.
Should this thread reach 500 posts it will be removed to Open Diversions where the same small group of people can continue to exchange views.
It seems to me, after 400 posts, that neither side is going to accept the other's as valid.
It isn't given us to know those rare moments when people are wide open and the lightest touch can wither or heal. A moment too late and we can never reach them any more in this world.
Oh come on ... this thread actually appears to me as having been extraordinarily 'passive' on both sides of the argument. Nothing much wrong with a few choice words to occasionally dent our pride.
Compared to most forums this place is a veritable oasis of peace and tranquillity, especially since ff got rid of the P&CA section.
I'm sorry - I really did not foresee there would be such a virulent thread developing. I really wish I hadn't posted it now.
I would have thought that with the same topic cropping up year after year, attracting much the same views, expressed in much the same way, you should have been fore-warned.
I was just about to put my hands together at the end of Turangalîla-Symphonie's Introduction when Beef Oven intervened to stop me. 'tis true, 'tis true, I tell you.
I was just about to put my hands together at the end of Turangalîla-Symphonie's Introduction when Beef Oven intervened to stop me. 'tis true, 'tis true, I tell you.
Hopefully you managed to successfully restrain this passive interventionist, Beef Oven, and summoned the stewards to eject him from the hall ... ?
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