Applause....I know, I know..........

[MrGongGong]

Time for a change then?

Recapitulation is a defining feature of Classical Music

Care to join me?

[Eine Alpensinfonie]

Recapitulation is a defining feature of Classical Music

Care to join me?

I've never been a fan of exposition repeats.

[Flosshilde]

It makes concerts about twice as long as they ought to be.

I didn't realise there is a regulation length for concerts.

(which reminds me - there hasn't been a thread about the poor value of Proms these days - in terms of how much music there is - compared with the past, recently)

[MrGongGong]

I didn't realise there is a regulation length for concerts.

(which reminds me - there hasn't been a thread about the poor value of Proms these days - in terms of how much music there is - compared with the past, recently)

Pull up a chair and join the circle
no one is rejected in this self help group

[jean]

I didn't realise there is a regulation length for concerts.

When you're making a selection of medieval chansons for your concert, you'll have an idea of how many will constitute a performance of suitable length. Most of them will last but a few minutes each.

If people then insist on clapping after each one, you can calculate the effect this will have on the length of the programme.

If you are lazy, you may note with satisfaction that you can get away with only an hour or so of actual music.

(You might have worked out that I wasn't being entirely serious.)

[Eine Alpensinfonie]

Pull up a chair and join the circle
no one is rejected in this self help group

You've been on too many courses.

[MrGongGong]

You've been on too many courses.

[doversoul1]

No

I'm saying what I wrote (and probably what I wrote last year and the year before)

Anyway it's time for the next person in the group to speak about their "personal journey" and how they became unable to cope with other human beings at concerts.

This (#103)?

Clapping between movements at the Proms is fine

If it is, who says? (Don’t bother to answer. I’m only playing your game)

That besides, I take it that, by what you wrote, you are suggesting / implying / expressing your opinion (without actually so wording, in other words) that you believe it is fine to clap between movements at the Proms regardless of your own preference?

Since you are one of the few exceptions on this thread, it will be interesting to hear your "personal journey" and how you became able to cope with other human beings at concerts.

[MrGongGong]

Try reading back a bit soulless one

When I go to a concert
I find there are other people there
they smell funny, they breathe, they laugh at things I don't find funny, they fart, they whoop and they clap their hands
thats what people do

When I go to a solemn religious event (like Feldman in St Pauls Hall in the middle of the night) people tend to behave differently even if the music is the same

If I want to hear a symphony in a pristine way without people I will put on a CD or go to an event where a large part of the audience aren't standing up

[doversoul1]

Try reading back a bit soulless one

When I go to a concert
I find there are other people there
they smell funny, they breathe, they laugh at things I don't find funny, they fart, they whoop and they clap their hands
thats what people do

When I go to a solemn religious event (like Feldman in St Pauls Hall in the middle of the night) people tend to behave differently even if the music is the same

If I want to hear a symphony in a pristine way without people I will put on a CD or go to an event where a large part of the audience aren't standing up

Thanks. So you are saying/implying that you didn’t mind people clapping in between movements when you went to a symphony prom because that was just one of those things people did. But if it doesn’t really matter to you, what made you join this discussion in the first place? Ah well, I’ll just guess the answer.

Never mind solemn religious events. This is about symphonies at the Proms. Context is all, is it not?

[MrGongGong]

Thanks. So you are saying/implying that you didn’t mind people clapping in between movements when you went to a symphony prom because that was just one of those things people did. But if it doesn’t really matter to you, what made you join this discussion in the first place? Ah well, I’ll just guess the answer.

Never mind solemn religious events. This is about symphonies at the Proms. Context is all, is it not?

FFS

The CONTEXT is THE PROMS which by their nature are events where lots of the audience STAND UP

The purpose of this thread seems to be for folks to have their annual moan about people clapping in places they don't like

The reason for joining the discussion is to maybe suggest to those who feel they somehow "own" music and have the right to dictate how it should be presented and received that there are other (and in some ways more historically informed) points of view.

If you don't like clapping at the Proms DON'T GO
there are plenty of other opportunities to hear symphonic music

(when I ask people who play in the orchestras about this they are usually more than happy that folks express their appreciation in this way, many players prefer it to a sterile awkward silence that somehow occurs)

But carry on your Chicken Licken discussion

[doversoul1]

The purpose of this thread seems to be for folks to have their annual moan about people clapping in places they don't like

The reason for joining the discussion is to maybe suggest to those who feel they somehow "own" music and have the right to dictate how it should be presented and received that there are other (and in some ways more historically informed) points of view.

If you don't like clapping at the Proms DON'T GO
there are plenty of other opportunities to hear symphonic music

(when I ask people who play in the orchestras about this they are usually more than happy that folks express their appreciation in this way, many players prefer it to a sterile awkward silence that somehow occurs)

Ah, I thought that might be the case:

When the Proms begin, sooner or later, a member starts a thread to have his/her annual moan about people clapping in places s/he doesn’t like. And then, Mr Gongers comes in, as sure as what’s-his-name’s dog, telling the members that they don’t "own" music or have the right to dictate, and if they don't like clapping at the Proms DON'T GO and so on and so forth.

This is the Forum’s Great Summer Ritual. I expect your ethnomusicology tells you that no communities can function without rituals. This forum is no exception, and our summer ritual would not be the same without you. You even bring in a few new names to drop every year to liven things up. You are doing a great job for the forum. Keep it up.

[MrGongGong]

Ah, I thought that might be the case:

When the Proms begin, sooner or later, a member starts a thread to have his/her annual moan about people clapping in places s/he doesn’t like. And then, Mr Gongers comes in, as sure as what’s-his-name’s dog, telling the members that they don’t "own" music or have the right to dictate, and if they don't like clapping at the Proms DON'T GO and so on and so forth.

This is the Forum’s Great Summer Ritual. I expect your ethnomusicology tells you that no communities can function without rituals. This forum is no exception, and our summer ritual would not be the same without you. You even bring in a few new names to drop every year to liven things up. You are doing a great job for the forum. Keep it up.

Tradition eh
don't you love it

[Eine Alpensinfonie]

FFS

The CONTEXT is THE PROMS which by their nature are events where lots of the audience STAND UP

The purpose of this thread seems to be for folks to have their annual moan about people clapping in places they don't like

The reason for joining the discussion is to maybe suggest to those who feel they somehow "own" music and have the right to dictate how it should be presented and received that there are other (and in some ways more historically informed) points of view.

If you don't like clapping at the Proms DON'T GO
there are plenty of other opportunities to hear symphonic music

(when I ask people who play in the orchestras about this they are usually more than happy that folks express their appreciation in this way, many players prefer it to a sterile awkward silence that somehow occurs)

But carry on your Chicken Licken discussion

OK, I'm poking fun at your disruptive and belittling post, but there are serious issues here. Not only do these thoughtless clappers affect others in the RAH, but, more significantly, annoy thousands of listeners on Radio 3.

[Beef Oven!]

OK, I'm poking fun at your disruptive and belittling post, but there are serious issues here.

Feeling strong about something doesn't make it a serious issue.

Not only do these thoughtless clappers affect others in the RAH, but, more significantly, annoy thousands of listeners on Radio 3.

You are assuming quite a lot here. Maybe thousands of listeners on Radio 3 are tuning in and listening to the performance (which includes the audience), and maybe they're fine with it (ditto others in the RAH).