Applause....I know, I know..........

[vinteuil]

My own preference is silence from the audience between movements .... there doesn't seem to be a consensus of opinion

... as you wisely say, there is no consensus. There are pre-romantic HIPP purists like me who welcome applause between movements ; there are post-romantic purists like Alpensinfonie who abhor anything that disturbs the 'experience' of the Work Performed.

Frankie say Relax

[Padraig]

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Frankie say Relax [/QUOTE]

So. It's the purists' fault, whichever way you look at it? Bad, bad purists.

But, Frankie have got it right.

[vinteuil]

So. It's the purists' fault, whichever way you look at it? Bad, bad purists.

But, Frankie have got it right.

... but some purists are 'welcoming' ; others 'abhor'.

[french frank]

Hasn't the word 'purist' become unhelpful? It has a precise meaning, and it's disparaging depending on who's using it against whom.

People either like to take in a symphony without audience intervention between movements or they prefer the intervention/aren't bothered.

They can't both win. Neither is 'right' in any absolute sense. Both have their reasons for preferring one rather the other, or not caring tuppence.

[jean]

When there is no consensus, it always seems to me that those who are disturbed by extraneous noise such as inter-movement applause are likely to be more upset by its presence than those who like it would be upset by its not being there.

In such cases isn't it desirable to upset people as little as possible?

(This is the argument I use when I try to get them to stop playing music in the swimming pool.)

[french frank]

When there is no consensus, it always seems to me that those who are disturbed by extraneous noise such as inter-movement applause are likely to be more upset by its presence than those who like it would be upset by its not being there.

Yes, I've always said if it's a battle in a 'voluntary' situation between those who want silence and those who want noise, the noisy ones 'win' every time.

Though I'm not clear whether the 'clap between movements if you want to' people are really saying that noise during a piece of music is all right: cheer if you feel like it when there's a bit you enjoyed, clap during the music if you want to, make whatever noise you want to; or if they are drawing an arbitrary line between the noise they will accept and that which they won't.

[Richard Tarleton]

OT, this reminds me of the arguments I used to have about smoking in shared spaces, being a bit militant about it. It was a binary thing. If others smoked in offices, restaurants, pubs etc., I was forced to share their smoke. I thought my right to clean air trumped theirs to pollute it with smoke. Silence, clean air, smoke, noise......

[DracoM]

Yes. With you 100%.

[Eine Alpensinfonie]

OT, this reminds me of the arguments I used to have about smoking in shared spaces, being a bit militant about it. It was a binary thing. If others smoked in offices, restaurants, pubs etc., I was forced to share their smoke. I thought my right to clean air trumped theirs to pollute it with smoke. Silence, clean air, smoke, noise......

Piped music in restaurants, shops, swimming pools etc. too.

[Beef Oven!]

Doorbells that go beyond the necessary, ice-cream vans flagrantly violating the 15 second rule, a dog barking for no reason, a security light coming on just because someone has walked past, possessive apostrophe's in plurals................

I'm with RT et al 100% on this one.

[MrGongGong]

People breathing near me
People with smelly hair
People with football shirts on when they aren't playing football
People I don't like appearing on the radio


and so on and so on

(120/75 )

Context?

[french frank]

All good fun. No one has yet responded to my earlier point in Msg #88:

"Though I'm not clear whether the 'clap between movements if you want to' people are really saying that noise during a piece of music is all right: cheer if you feel like it when there's a bit you enjoyed, clap during the music if you want to, make whatever noise you want to; or if they are drawing an arbitrary line between the noise they will accept and that which they won't. "

[Beef Oven!]

All good fun. No one has yet responded to my earlier point in Msg #88:

"Though I'm not clear whether the 'clap between movements if you want to' people are really saying that noise during a piece of music is all right: cheer if you feel like it when there's a bit you enjoyed, clap during the music if you want to, make whatever noise you want to; or if they are drawing an arbitrary line between the noise they will accept and that which they won't. "

Are we talking in respect of Proms, or any (classical?) concerts?

[french frank]

Are we talking in respect of Proms, or any (classical?) concerts?

It would apply at any concert where they play symphonies. Though it only seems to happen regularly at the Proms.

[MrGongGong]

It would apply at any concert where they play symphonies. Though it only seems to happen regularly at the Proms.

So no consideration of context then?