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  • Hitch
    Full Member
    • Nov 2010
    • 374

    New Music at the Proms

    Found via Alex Ross:

    A R3 list of contemporary works and world premieres at the 2015 Proms.
  • Serial_Apologist
    Full Member
    • Dec 2010
    • 37812

    #2
    Thanks v much, Hitch - many hours of aural delight in store without the need to fiddle about searching!





    (NB - Not all of it is "new music", of course)

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    • umslopogaas
      Full Member
      • Nov 2010
      • 1977

      #3
      One work that is definitely new, but which I did not spot on Hitch's list, is "Ophiocordyceps unilateralis s.l.", by Shiorsi Usui, which was broadcast on the matinee on Saturday 25 July. I was half listening to the composer's introduction, but not paying much attention, until I realised she was talking about fungi which attack and kill insects, entomopathogenic fungi, to give them their technical name. The one in the title attacks ants. I never worked directly on this group, but I did work on other aspects of entomopthogenic fungi and once I started listening, the lady seemed well informed. I cant say that the music made much impression on me, and I very much doubt I shall hear it again, but this must be a first: if anyone else can name another piece of music inspired by an entomopathogenic fungus, I'd like to hear about it.

      Incidentally, the title is the generic and specific name of a particular fungus, but I dont know what s.l. stands for; I have written to an expert colleague to find out.

      If people want to search out more information, it was known as Cordyceps unilateralis in older literature.

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      • MrGongGong
        Full Member
        • Nov 2010
        • 18357

        #4
        I'll ask her if you like ums?

        (it's Shiori Usui btw)

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        • umslopogaas
          Full Member
          • Nov 2010
          • 1977

          #5
          Woops ... thanks Mr GG, if you know her, by all means, I'm curious to know and my expert colleague only works part time and may take a long time to respond.

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          • subcontrabass
            Full Member
            • Nov 2010
            • 2780

            #6
            Originally posted by umslopogaas View Post
            Incidentally, the title is the generic and specific name of a particular fungus, but I dont know what s.l. stands for;
            Wikipedia gives this page: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Sensu#Common_qualifiers

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            • umslopogaas
              Full Member
              • Nov 2010
              • 1977

              #7
              How embarrassing ... I once knew that, but in those days it was never abbreviated. "Sensu lato" just means "in a loose sense", ie it looks closer to that species than anything else; we arent strictly confident that is what it is, but we havent got any better ideas. It usually happens when taxonomists gather together a lot of similar material and say well, it all looks like abc xyz s.l., but we are fairly sure, with more material and a lot more work, we can split them up into several different species.

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              • Beef Oven!
                Ex-member
                • Sep 2013
                • 18147

                #8
                I'm missing something here - I don't see the Prom which Morton Subotnick's Silver Apples is/was on. And some others too.

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                • umslopogaas
                  Full Member
                  • Nov 2010
                  • 1977

                  #9
                  Neither do I, and Subotnick is not in the index to the Proms programme.

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                  • Bryn
                    Banned
                    • Mar 2007
                    • 24688

                    #10
                    Those that are taken from the Proms carry the "New music at the Proms" logo. Simples.

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                    • Beef Oven!
                      Ex-member
                      • Sep 2013
                      • 18147

                      #11
                      Originally posted by Bryn View Post
                      Those that are taken from the Proms carry the "New music at the Proms" logo. Simples.
                      Why list 35 works with links to performances when only 7 are actually at this year's Proms?

                      They should just simply show the 7 relevant works. Simpleser.

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                      • ferneyhoughgeliebte
                        Gone fishin'
                        • Sep 2011
                        • 30163

                        #12
                        Originally posted by Beef Oven! View Post
                        I'm missing something here - I don't see the Prom which Morton Subotnick's Silver Apples is/was on. And some others too.
                        Was it at a Prom? It's available from the Hear & Now site - from a (non-Prom) at Café Oto last June (although not broadcast until 6th July - therefore only just over a week left to listen again):

                        [FONT=Comic Sans MS][I][B]Numquam Satis![/B][/I][/FONT]

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                        • Beef Oven!
                          Ex-member
                          • Sep 2013
                          • 18147

                          #13
                          Originally posted by ferneyhoughgeliebte View Post
                          Was it at a Prom? It's available from the Hear & Now site - from a (non-Prom) at Café Oto last June (although not broadcast until 6th July - therefore only just over a week left to listen again):

                          http://www.bbc.co.uk/programmes/p02wfgg8
                          For me, the confusion is that the R3 Live In Concert web page that the link takes you to says "Don’t miss the cutting edge contemporary works and exclusive world premieres taking place throughout this year’s Proms". 28 of the 35 listed performances aren't taking place at this year's Proms. I think Ill get over it

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                          • ferneyhoughgeliebte
                            Gone fishin'
                            • Sep 2011
                            • 30163

                            #14
                            Originally posted by Beef Oven! View Post
                            For me, the confusion is that the R3 Live In Concert web page that the link takes you to says "Don’t miss the cutting edge contemporary works and exclusive world premieres taking place throughout this year’s Proms". 28 of the 35 listed performances aren't taking place at this year's Proms. I think Ill get over it
                            I think it's belated guilt at the paucity of new Music in this year's season - they've gone into denial and are trying to convince themselves that the good stuff is also part of the Proms!
                            [FONT=Comic Sans MS][I][B]Numquam Satis![/B][/I][/FONT]

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                            • Beef Oven!
                              Ex-member
                              • Sep 2013
                              • 18147

                              #15
                              Originally posted by ferneyhoughgeliebte View Post
                              I think it's belated guilt at the paucity of new Music in this year's season - they've gone into denial and are trying to convince themselves that the good stuff is also part of the Proms!

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