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  • maestro267
    Full Member
    • Nov 2010
    • 355

    #61
    According to some on Twitter, it seems that tonight's broadcast of Beethoven 9 was broken up with interviews with Sir Mark Elder between each movement. As if it couldn't get any worse.

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    • Norrette
      Full Member
      • Apr 2011
      • 157

      #62
      Also on twitter is this image from the 10 pieces prom:



      Sort of...war horse meets three minutes of Stravinsky

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      • MrGongGong
        Full Member
        • Nov 2010
        • 18357

        #63
        Originally posted by Crowcatcher View Post
        The ultimate depravity of R3 powers-that-be


        You must have led a very sheltered life

        But it did get me wondering what the "ultimate depravity" Prom would be?

        Franko B conducts Diamanda Galas in Litanies of Satan?
        or
        Gorgoroth's Black Mass Krakow live at the RAH?

        or?

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        • Prommer
          Full Member
          • Dec 2010
          • 1260

          #64
          This discussion of the BBC's attitude to the Proms, and how that shapes how it presents them, is not irrelevant to the upcoming discussions around the licence fee and the appropriate role of the BBC in future.

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          • VodkaDilc

            #65
            Originally posted by maestro267 View Post
            According to some on Twitter, it seems that tonight's broadcast of Beethoven 9 was broken up with interviews with Sir Mark Elder between each movement. As if it couldn't get any worse.
            Is this true? Do you mean the R3 (surely not) or a later television version?

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            • Eine Alpensinfonie
              Host
              • Nov 2010
              • 20572

              #66
              I can assure you that Radio 3 was fine.

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              • VodkaDilc

                #67
                Originally posted by Eine Alpensinfonie View Post
                I can assure you that Radio 3 was fine.
                Thanks. That's a relief. Would Sir Mark really take part in such antics? (I presume this was on BBC4.) After all, in my recent experience, he is the supreme master of the withering look to any member of the audience behaving antisocially. (Long may he continue.)

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                • gurnemanz
                  Full Member
                  • Nov 2010
                  • 7405

                  #68
                  Originally posted by french frank View Post
                  At least Jonas Kaufmann has been given the Last Night as compensation …
                  As his latest operetta CD shows, he is not averse to the lighter vein.

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                  • french frank
                    Administrator/Moderator
                    • Feb 2007
                    • 30456

                    #69
                    Originally posted by gurnemanz View Post
                    As his latest operetta CD shows, he is not averse to the lighter vein.
                    As are many other 'classical' stars. That wasn't the point I was making here, though. It was that two (am I right? part time?) singers were designated, regarding their Prom concerts, 'some of the great voices of our own time'.

                    [But, there, Patten's daughters were quoted as saying: 'Celebrities are people Dad hasn't heard of.')
                    It isn't given us to know those rare moments when people are wide open and the lightest touch can wither or heal. A moment too late and we can never reach them any more in this world.

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                    • zola
                      Full Member
                      • May 2011
                      • 656

                      #70
                      Originally posted by VodkaDilc View Post
                      Thanks. That's a relief. Would Sir Mark really take part in such antics? (I presume this was on BBC4.) After all, in my recent experience, he is the supreme master of the withering look to any member of the audience behaving antisocially. (Long may he continue.)
                      Not only did he take part but he is doing the same thing for two of his own performances later in the season according to his remarks at the start of the broadcast.

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                      • VodkaDilc

                        #71
                        Originally posted by zola View Post
                        Not only did he take part but he is doing the same thing for two of his own performances later in the season according to his remarks at the start of the broadcast.
                        Between movements??? Another reason to avoid BBC4? (Perhaps it should go online only, like BBC3.)

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                        • Stanley Stewart
                          Late Member
                          • Nov 2010
                          • 1071

                          #72
                          Originally posted by VodkaDilc View Post
                          Between movements??? Another reason to avoid BBC4? (Perhaps it should go online only, like BBC3.)
                          WHY? Before the TV Prom, we had the fourth part of Antonio Pappano's engaging series on Classical Voices, a veritable treat with its treasury of gold nuggets - and I did an overnight DVD transfer of the whole series for future reference and much enjoyment.


                          Indeed, I was irritated by the chat factor between movements during Beethoven 9 but I muted the sound for a couple of minutes and thought of England! Somehow, I don't think this absurd intrusion will survive for long and the performance gave me much pleasure.

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                          • MrGongGong
                            Full Member
                            • Nov 2010
                            • 18357

                            #73
                            Originally posted by VodkaDilc View Post
                            Between movements???
                            Nice to see the BBC reinstating the traditional interlude between movements that was very much part of concert going in the past (1/2 Joking)

                            If you go in the back of the boxes in the RAH you will find a little room where they used to lay out a buffet for folks to snack on in the "boring bits"

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                            • french frank
                              Administrator/Moderator
                              • Feb 2007
                              • 30456

                              #74
                              Originally posted by VodkaDilc View Post
                              Thanks. That's a relief. Would Sir Mark really take part in such antics?
                              I assume his entire talk was pre-recorded?

                              It may indeed be an experiment like the camera on the conductor's head (did I dream that?). The worst thing will be that television becomes not worth bothering with as far as the Proms are concerned, but I really don't see why this couldn't be on BBC Two.
                              It isn't given us to know those rare moments when people are wide open and the lightest touch can wither or heal. A moment too late and we can never reach them any more in this world.

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                              • mercia
                                Full Member
                                • Nov 2010
                                • 8920

                                #75
                                we did have 'conductor-cam' a year or two back, with a camera facing the conductor throughout a performance and a commentator interpreting all the gestures, quite interesting in its own way although not a way to enjoy the music as such (obviously)

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