Forum Calendar: 2015 Proms + 2015 EIF concerts on R3

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  • bluestateprommer
    Full Member
    • Nov 2010
    • 3022

    Forum Calendar: 2015 Proms + 2015 EIF concerts on R3

    I've completed population of the Forum calendar with details on the 2015 Proms, as well as the 15 Edinburgh International Festival concerts which Radio 3 will air in August. Comments on each:

    (1) Proms: you can link to each month on the calendar (if you really want to have an advance look) as follows (hopefully these links work):

    July 2015
    August 2015
    September 2015

    It's not a simple 'copy and paste' job, as I've added some personal touches like last year, as well as made corrections to mistakes (Andrew Slater has made corrections on his one-pager as well) on the BBC listings. (Of course, BSP notes that his personal touches introduce the risk of his own mistakes creeping in.) Based on cross-checking with the BBC Proms Archive, personal touches include:

    a) Stating "Proms debut artist" and "Proms debut ensemble" for artists and groups where appropriate, which the BBC listings have severely cut down on this year, for some reason, but scattered individual identifications do appear here and there. (Also, for a few knights of the realm, I restored the "Sir" before their name, which the BBC pages omitted.)

    b) Noting "first perfomance at The Proms" for compositions where appropriate. (Some of them will surprise you. They certainly surprised me.) When the work is receiving its London, UK, or world premiere, then of course it's a given that it is also a first performance at The Proms.

    c) With a few exceptions, a blank line between selections indicates the interval. One exception is several of the PSM's with period-instrument ensembles, since a few of them have multiple selections by a single composer in succession, so that IMHO, for presentation, a blank line separating each composer seemed cleaner to look at.

    Also, in two instances, namely Proms 17 and 36, I took it upon myself to "place" the interval in a different place from what the BBC's information lists, because at least to me, their placements have to be mistakes, i.e. in Prom 17, playing the Debussy Prelude (10 minutes), then intermission, then having a second half of almost 95 minutes. This makes no sense whatsoever. Perhaps I'm wrong in these two instances, but somehow, I think now, based on an intuitive sense of time balance for concert halves.

    d) I tend to omit running times of works, more of out personal idiosyncracy. So you will not see those ERT's reproduced from the BBC listings.

    e) I've given my own personal short titles to some of the Proms where it seemed to me appropriate (e.g. Proms 32, 62, 70). These are by no means to be regarded as 'official' titles sanctioned by anyone at the BBC or The Proms.

    Also, per Caliban's suggestion in the thread on AS' one-pager, I've put in notes at the end that indicate TV broadcast. As well, BSP finally got a clue compared to past years, and I've added hyperlinks out to the BBC Proms' pages on each Prom.

    (2) Edinburgh: as noted, I've put in entries for the 15 Queen's Hall 11 AM concerts which R3 will be broadcasting in August. It should be noted that 2 of them (Nash Ensemble, Christine Brewer/Roger Vignoles) are not live relays, but delayed relays. I've noted that at the top of each entry. Otherwise, the presentation format follows that of the Proms listings, although in the cases of the intervals, EIF doesn't note that in their concerts, so I've guessed out of the blue on those.

    Of course, the standard caveats about schedule changes apply, as no doubt artist changes and cancellations, and music selection changes, will inevitably occur between now and the summer. I'll do what I can to keep up with the changes, but I can't assure that I will make the changes the moment that they occur. It's probably best for me to look in July as the First Night approaches, and then make all the updates at once.
    Last edited by bluestateprommer; 26-04-15, 22:12.
  • Eine Alpensinfonie
    Host
    • Nov 2010
    • 20575

    #2
    Brilliant, as ever, BSP, and with a few new twists as well.

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    • antongould
      Full Member
      • Nov 2010
      • 8836

      #3
      Awesome indeed BSP - many thanks.......

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      • Roehre

        #4
        Originally posted by antongould View Post
        Awesome indeed BSP - many thanks.......
        whokeheartedly seconded

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        • french frank
          Administrator/Moderator
          • Feb 2007
          • 30509

          #5
          I was waiting … didn't like to ask: it seemed too big a favour

          It isn't given us to know those rare moments when people are wide open and the lightest touch can wither or heal. A moment too late and we can never reach them any more in this world.

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          • Flyposter
            Full Member
            • Dec 2010
            • 48

            #6
            Does anybody know if it is possible to import these calendars into a Google calendar?

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            • bluestateprommer
              Full Member
              • Nov 2010
              • 3022

              #7
              Originally posted by Flyposter View Post
              Does anybody know if it is possible to import these calendars into a Google calendar?
              In the case of the Forum calendar, honestly, no idea at all, as I'm web-tech illiterate in many ways. But my intuitive guess is probably not with the Forum calendar, since I think you have to import files to load into Google Calendar. Andrew Slater's one-pager might be easier, if you copy and paste his text into some sort of file, but again, I'm the worst person to ask on this kind of issue.

              BTW, first update to the Forum calendar is to Prom 11, Fiddler on the Roof, as the BBC Proms page now shows the main cast besides Bryn Terfel. It just occurred to me this week to try to glean what cast members I could, as even Grange Park Opera doesn't yet show their full cast list. I found a few names prior to today, but the BBC pipped me and GPO to the post. So score one for the Beeb here.

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              • Ravensbourne
                Full Member
                • Dec 2010
                • 100

                #8
                #BBCProms Google Calendar

                Originally posted by Flyposter View Post
                Does anybody know if it is possible to import these calendars into a Google calendar?
                The #BBCProms Google Calendar works perfectly - see:

                Afternoon folks! Having checked with the BBC in 2011 that no Google Calendar listing the Proms already exists, I spent a few hours creating one and listing all the Proms in it. I did the same in 2012, and here we are in 2013 and there is still no official Google calendar.... So again this…


                I added it as a Google calendar a couple of years ago, and don't need to do anything to bring the new concerts in as they appear.

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                • Flyposter
                  Full Member
                  • Dec 2010
                  • 48

                  #9
                  Originally posted by Ravensbourne View Post
                  The #BBCProms Google Calendar works perfectly - see:

                  Afternoon folks! Having checked with the BBC in 2011 that no Google Calendar listing the Proms already exists, I spent a few hours creating one and listing all the Proms in it. I did the same in 2012, and here we are in 2013 and there is still no official Google calendar.... So again this…


                  I added it as a Google calendar a couple of years ago, and don't need to do anything to bring the new concerts in as they appear.
                  Many thanks for that. Works perfectly.

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                  • bluestateprommer
                    Full Member
                    • Nov 2010
                    • 3022

                    #10
                    Updates are completed, which are mainly artist additions to several of the Late Night Proms, i.e. the collaborations with other BBC radio branches (not sure of the proper term you guys use). Interestingly, from a spot check, I haven't seen any changes to the key artists or repertoire in the main evening's Proms yet. Of course, now that I've said that, I'll jinx it ;) .

                    PS: Also, please feel free to use my format for the concert info in the individual concert threads. I think my presentation is a bit prettier than the BBC's :) .

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                    • french frank
                      Administrator/Moderator
                      • Feb 2007
                      • 30509

                      #11
                      Originally posted by bluestateprommer View Post
                      I think my presentation is a bit prettier than the BBC's :) .


                      Thank you v. much, bsp.
                      It isn't given us to know those rare moments when people are wide open and the lightest touch can wither or heal. A moment too late and we can never reach them any more in this world.

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                      • bluestateprommer
                        Full Member
                        • Nov 2010
                        • 3022

                        #12
                        Newest updates to the Forum calendar:
                        (1) Change of tenor for LvB 9 with the CBSO this Sunday, with Pavel Černoch now taking the place of Dmytro Popov
                        (2) Addition of Trinity Laban Conservatoire of Music and Dance - Connect It Ensemble to the Ten Pieces Proms this weekend.

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