Prom 76 - 13.09.14: The Last Night; BBC SO, Oramo

[Eine Alpensinfonie]

True enough but the point is still the same- short pieces for the last night rather than a full concerto .

It's a live version of Breakfast.

[Barbirollians]

Even worse it is being presented by Sean Rafferty .

It is not snobbish to suggest that the Last Night has become less serious in the first half and comprises more and more of shorter pieces .

I accept that Chausson's Poeme is better than last year when Nige was brought in just to play the Lark Ascending again but it does seem a while since a full concerto was played .

As for Poeme - I once heard it played by Kyung Wha Chung in the 1980s - absolutely marvellous as is her recording with Dutoit.

[Eine Alpensinfonie]

Even worse it is being presented by Sean Rafferty .

[Barbirollians]

If one ignores the Bruch 1 in 2012 and Liszt 1 in 2011 which are so pop they do not count - the last serious concerto played on the last Night was the Prokofiev 2 with Viktoria Mullova in 2006

[Nick Armstrong]

Yes - but the other "point" (that Ms Jansen might not be working hard enough for a huge fee) is demonstrably-in-a-court-of-law incorrect.

Hullo? Someone call?

[ferneyhoughgeliebte]

Hullo? Someone call?

[Eine Alpensinfonie]

If one ignores the Bruch 1 in 2012 and Liszt 1 in 2011 which are so pop they do not count - the last serious concerto played on the last Night was the Prokofiev 2 with Viktoria Mullova in 2006

The fact that a work is popular does not mean isn't serious. It's the grovelling to people with a limited attention span that's the issue here.

[pastoralguy]

If one ignores the Bruch 1 in 2012 and Liszt 1 in 2011 which are so pop they do not count - the last serious concerto played on the last Night was the Prokofiev 2 with Viktoria Mullova in 2006

That was 2006?! where does the time go?

[MrGongGong]

I've always thought that was the problem with the LN - the first half & second half seem to be two different concerts colliding.

LNOTP has always been cr*p IMV
and this year looks like no exception
best one I saw was the one with PANIC but that was a while back

[Flosshilde]

If one ignores the Bruch 1 in 2012 and Liszt 1 in 2011

You'd have to for your argument to stand up

so pop they do not count

Snobbery again?

[ferneyhoughgeliebte]

best one I saw was the one with PANIC but that was a while back

1995!

[Barbirollians]

You'd have to for your argument to stand up




Snobbery again?

Not at all I love both works but I think the Bruch 1 could do with a rest at the proms and the Liszt 1 is very short .

The Prokofiev 2 is the last concerto played that wasn't either very short or a pop classic .

[Eine Alpensinfonie]

The concertos in question are not pop classics; they are classical classics.

Hey Jude is a pop classic.

[Eine Alpensinfonie]

best one I saw was the one with PANIC

Personally I think it was the worst work of a gifted composer. Perhaps the present state of things is a reaction to that performance.

[Barbirollians]

The concertos in question are not pop classics; they are classical classics.

Hey Jude is a pop classic.

I disagree - a pop classic is a popular classic - the Boston Pops orchestra was renowned for playing them . Bruch 1 is the epitome of such a piece .