Prom 76 - 13.09.14: The Last Night; BBC SO, Oramo

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  • Pabmusic
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    • May 2011
    • 5537

    #31
    I'll just add that there is so much music that we hear rarely live because it's 'bite-size'. It's not just concertante pieces (and there so many of those - Beethoven: Romances, Dvořák: Romanza, Suk: Fantasy, Saint-Saëns: Wedding-Cake Caprice, Elgar: Bassoon Romance, Rachmaninov: Vocalise) but it's also pieces such as Borodin: In the Steppes of Central Asia*, Suk: Fanastické Scherzo, Prokofiev: Overture on Hebrew Themes, Debussy: Petite Suite, and so on ad inf.

    Programming such pieces isn't so difficult.

    *Borodin called this piece В средней Азии, which translates as In Central Asia. That's rather more pithy than the one we use.

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    • Pabmusic
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      • May 2011
      • 5537

      #32
      Originally posted by Barbirollians View Post
      I disagree - a pop classic is a popular classic - the Boston Pops orchestra was renowned for playing them . Bruch 1 is the epitome of such a piece .
      I think the expression started as 'classical pops' ('pops' of the classical variety). That presumably has since shortened to 'classic pops'.

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      • ferneyhoughgeliebte
        Gone fishin'
        • Sep 2011
        • 30163

        #33
        Originally posted by Pabmusic View Post
        I think the expression started as 'classical pops' ('pops' of the classical variety).
        And not to be confused with all those Masses and Fugues and Ops.
        [FONT=Comic Sans MS][I][B]Numquam Satis![/B][/I][/FONT]

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        • kernelbogey
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          • Nov 2010
          • 5803

          #34
          I haven't listened to, or watched, LNOTP for years - can't remember, even, when I stopped. It's above all the chauvinism which sticks in my gullet.

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          • Pabmusic
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            • May 2011
            • 5537

            #35
            Originally posted by ferneyhoughgeliebte View Post
            And not to be confused with all those Masses and Fugues and Ops.
            You mean Bach, interwoven with Spohr and Beethoven…?

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            • MrGongGong
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              • Nov 2010
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              #36
              Never mind folks
              This years festival of "unpopular" music is coming up
              and HCMF looks very good this year indeed

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              • ferneyhoughgeliebte
                Gone fishin'
                • Sep 2011
                • 30163

                #37
                Originally posted by MrGongGong View Post
                HCMF looks very good this year indeed
                [FONT=Comic Sans MS][I][B]Numquam Satis![/B][/I][/FONT]

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                • ferneyhoughgeliebte
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                  • Sep 2011
                  • 30163

                  #38
                  Originally posted by Pabmusic View Post
                  You mean Bach, interwoven with Spohr and Beethoven…?
                  [FONT=Comic Sans MS][I][B]Numquam Satis![/B][/I][/FONT]

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                  • MrGongGong
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                    • Nov 2010
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                    #39
                    Originally posted by Eine Alpensinfonie View Post
                    Personally I think it was the worst work of a gifted composer. Perhaps the present state of things is a reaction to that performance.
                    I thought we had agreed not to discuss DOG ?

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                    • Eine Alpensinfonie
                      Host
                      • Nov 2010
                      • 20573

                      #40
                      Originally posted by MrGongGong View Post
                      I thought we had agreed not to discuss DOG ?

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                      • cloughie
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                        • Dec 2011
                        • 22186

                        #41
                        Originally posted by Barbirollians View Post
                        Even worse it is being presented by Sean Rafferty .

                        It is not snobbish to suggest that the Last Night has become less serious in the first half and comprises more and more of shorter pieces .

                        I accept that Chausson's Poeme is better than last year when Nige was brought in just to play the Lark Ascending again but it does seem a while since a full concerto was played .

                        As for Poeme - I once heard it played by Kyung Wha Chung in the 1980s - absolutely marvellous as is her recording with Dutoit.
                        I think he played some other thrown together tat as well!

                        ...and I'd rather have the Ravel and Chausson than Bruch or Mendelssohn for the evening.
                        Last edited by cloughie; 10-09-14, 10:18.

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                        • cloughie
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                          • Dec 2011
                          • 22186

                          #42
                          Originally posted by ferneyhoughgeliebte View Post
                          Ooh, I dunno - didn't Benny and Björn have a previous success with "Peterloo" or something?
                          You mean the one that goes:

                          Peterloo, I'll cause a riot if you want me to,
                          Peterloo, promise to riot for evermore.

                          Actually putting words to Peterloo sounds a great idea - I've been thinking of ptting some to Padstow Lifeboat!

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                          • EnemyoftheStoat
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                            • Nov 2010
                            • 1135

                            #43
                            So any reference to that thing in Scotland is banned: https://www.telegraph.co.uk/news/ukn...eferendum.html

                            Cue: "Arena to..."

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                            • Prommer
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                              • Dec 2010
                              • 1260

                              #44
                              Well, next year we will have to do without 'Rule Britannia' at this rate, as it might be about to become thoroughly obsolete… Jerusalem still ok though!

                              On the plus side, maybe we will not have to put up with those irritating cutaways to the concerts around the UK, as the Scots will be content to have their own jamboree beamed out on the Scottish Broadcasting Corporation??

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                              • amac4165

                                #45
                                Originally posted by Prommer View Post
                                Well, next year we will have to do without 'Rule Britannia' at this rate, as it might be about to become thoroughly obsolete… Jerusalem still ok though!

                                On the plus side, maybe we will not have to put up with those irritating cutaways to the concerts around the UK, as the Scots will be content to have their own jamboree beamed out on the Scottish Broadcasting Corporation??

                                Apparently there is to be a surprise soloist ?! Possibly Alex Salmond doing "Donald where's your troozers ... !"

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