Prom 72 - 10.09.14: BBC SO, Berthaud / Litton

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  • ferneyhoughgeliebte
    Gone fishin'
    • Sep 2011
    • 30163

    #61
    Originally posted by mercia View Post
    me on Sir Harry - I don't think I like it, and I really mean that
    Sir Harry on mercs - Who are you and what are you doing in my dressing room?
    [FONT=Comic Sans MS][I][B]Numquam Satis![/B][/I][/FONT]

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    • rauschwerk
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      • Nov 2010
      • 1482

      #62
      I thought it was common knowledge that RVW had Beethoven 5 in mind when he composed the scherzo/finale link. If he had tried to emulate Beethoven's 'glory' here (and isn't LvB's tune deliberately rather commonplace?) I don't think it would have worked at all. The oom-pah bass is no more deliberately banal than anything in Mahler, and the tune which it accompanies has never reminded me of Roll out the barrel in all the 50-odd years I have known this symphony.

      A description of the Walton viola concerto as 'banal' leaves me speechless.

      I don't give a toss whether RVW4 is the greatest British symphony - I loathe all artistic championships and league tables.

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      • ferneyhoughgeliebte
        Gone fishin'
        • Sep 2011
        • 30163

        #63
        Originally posted by rauschwerk View Post
        A description of the Walton viola concerto as 'banal' leaves me speechless.
        Me, too. Which is quite a feat.

        I don't give a toss whether RVW4 is the greatest British symphony - I loathe all artistic championships and league tables.
        Yes - it's right at the top of my hate list, too.
        [FONT=Comic Sans MS][I][B]Numquam Satis![/B][/I][/FONT]

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        • EdgeleyRob
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          • Nov 2010
          • 12180

          #64
          Originally posted by ferneyhoughgeliebte View Post
          3/4 - very good. But the correct answer is "5 then 3 then 6 then 4 then 9 then 7"
          You're all wrong.

          RVW symphonies in order of greatest British Symphonyness.

          9,4,3,5,6,7,2,1,8.

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          • mrbouffant
            Full Member
            • Aug 2011
            • 207

            #65
            Oh don't be so sniffy towards no. 8 -- it is a little masterpiece !

            Another thumbs up for Georgie Lloyd from this corner. Then again, I am quite fond of the Parry symphonies and don't start me on the Stanford canon... ;)

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            • EdgeleyRob
              Guest
              • Nov 2010
              • 12180

              #66
              Originally posted by mrbouffant View Post
              Oh don't be so sniffy towards no. 8 -- it is a little masterpiece !

              Another thumbs up for Georgie Lloyd from this corner. Then again, I am quite fond of the Parry symphonies and don't start me on the Stanford canon... ;)
              Oh yes,absolutely love No 8,just having a bit of fun putting them in a sort of favourite order,I couldn't live without any of them.

              I am more than quite fond of the Lloyd,Parry and Stanford symphonies.
              More inclined to listen to them than a lot of mainstream stuff,like erm Mahler,Sibelius and.....that's me in trouble now.

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              • PJPJ
                Full Member
                • Nov 2010
                • 1461

                #67
                Originally posted by mrbouffant View Post
                Oh don't be so sniffy towards no. 8 -- it is a little masterpiece !

                Another thumbs up for Georgie Lloyd from this corner. Then again, I am quite fond of the Parry symphonies and don't start me on the Stanford canon... ;)
                Likewise...... for all three.

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                • Nick Armstrong
                  Host
                  • Nov 2010
                  • 26574

                  #68
                  Originally posted by ferneyhoughgeliebte View Post
                  Yes - it's right at the top of my hate list, too.
                  Nice, ferney... subtle, like!


                  Originally posted by EdgeleyRob View Post
                  You're all wrong.
                  ... new motto for the Forum?

                  Actually I'm with mrbouffant in thinking you're wrong to give 8 the wooden spoon. I love it far more than 9...


                  "...the isle is full of noises,
                  Sounds and sweet airs, that give delight and hurt not.
                  Sometimes a thousand twangling instruments
                  Will hum about mine ears, and sometime voices..."

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                  • Tevot
                    Full Member
                    • Nov 2010
                    • 1011

                    #69
                    Originally posted by Caliban View Post
                    Nice, ferney... subtle, like!



                    ... new motto for the Forum?

                    Actually I'm with mrbouffant in thinking you're wrong to give 8 the wooden spoon. I love it far more than 9...


                    I'd agree with you Caliban. I really rate 8. Best RVW? Probably whichever I've last heard conducted by Maestro Andrew Manze...

                    Oh fickle me

                    Best Wishes,

                    Tevot

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                    • ferneyhoughgeliebte
                      Gone fishin'
                      • Sep 2011
                      • 30163

                      #70
                      Originally posted by Tevot View Post
                      Oh fickle me
                      I don't think we're supposed to do that on the Forum - you'll have to fickle yourself.
                      [FONT=Comic Sans MS][I][B]Numquam Satis![/B][/I][/FONT]

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                      • Roslynmuse
                        Full Member
                        • Jun 2011
                        • 1249

                        #71
                        Originally posted by ferneyhoughgeliebte View Post
                        I don't think we're supposed to do that on the Forum - you'll have to fickle yourself.
                        Is fickling like kipling? As in 'Do you like Rudyard Kipling?' 'I don't know, I've never kippled.'

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                        • cloughie
                          Full Member
                          • Dec 2011
                          • 22186

                          #72
                          Originally posted by ferneyhoughgeliebte View Post
                          3/4 - very good. But the correct answer is "5 then 3 then 6 then 4 then 9 then 7"
                          6 comes after 4!

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                          • Tevot
                            Full Member
                            • Nov 2010
                            • 1011

                            #73
                            Originally posted by ferneyhoughgeliebte View Post
                            I don't think we're supposed to do that on the Forum - you'll have to fickle yourself.
                            Ooh you are awful ...

                            After a fine fickle - I'll plump for RVW 5. Oh... but then again there's always Willy Walton's 1st !

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                            • EdgeleyRob
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                              • Nov 2010
                              • 12180

                              #74
                              Originally posted by Tevot View Post
                              Ooh you are awful ...

                              After a fine fickle - I'll plump for RVW 5 -- oh... but then again there's always Willy Walton's 1'st
                              The 11th best after the 9 RVWs and Elgar 2.

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                              • cloughie
                                Full Member
                                • Dec 2011
                                • 22186

                                #75
                                Originally posted by Tevot View Post
                                Ooh you are awful ...

                                After a fine fickle - I'll plump for RVW 5. Oh... but then again there's always Willy Walton's 1st !
                                I always count that in with Sibelius!

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