Prom 36 - 13.08.14: VW/Alwyn Prom, BBC SO, Jansen / Oramo

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  • Nick Armstrong
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    • Nov 2010
    • 26574

    #46
    Originally posted by Eine Alpensinfonie View Post
    Vaughan Williams: The Wasps - overture
    Alwyn: Symphony No. 1
    Vaughan Williams: The Lark Ascending

    Vaughan Williams: Job: A Masque for Dancing
    Judging by the ubiquitous trail, this order has been changed - it implies Job in the first half, and "then" the Alwyn symphony. Anyone have any inside knowledge?
    "...the isle is full of noises,
    Sounds and sweet airs, that give delight and hurt not.
    Sometimes a thousand twangling instruments
    Will hum about mine ears, and sometime voices..."

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    • EdgeleyRob
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      • Nov 2010
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      #47
      Originally posted by Caliban View Post
      Judging by the ubiquitous trail, this order has been changed - it implies Job in the first half, and "then" the Alwyn symphony. Anyone have any inside knowledge?
      If this is true,it's quite an honour (deserved IMO)for Alwyn 1 to be the last work on the programme.

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      • cloughie
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        • Dec 2011
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        #48
        Originally posted by EdgeleyRob View Post
        If this is true,it's quite an honour (deserved IMO)for Alwyn 1 to be the last work on the programme.
        Another view would be that it seriously demotes RVW's (arguably) greatest work!

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        • EdgeleyRob
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          • Nov 2010
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          #49
          Originally posted by cloughie View Post
          Another view would be that it seriously demotes RVW's (arguably) greatest work!
          True enough,but it would just be nice once in a while for a neglected British symphony to be the main work in a concert.

          Job is RVW's third greatest work,after the 9th symphony and Pilgrim's Progress (only IMVHO of course).

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          • Eine Alpensinfonie
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            • Nov 2010
            • 20573

            #50
            Originally posted by Caliban View Post
            Judging by the ubiquitous trail, this order has been changed - it implies Job in the first half, and "then" the Alwyn symphony. Anyone have any inside knowledge?
            The order hasn't changed on the BBC Radio 3 website. My guess is that it probably confirms my belief that continuity announcers have their brains missing when they make their little speeches. Sometimes these announcements come from people who we know to be highly intelligent and musically perceptive, but perhaps they become self-conscious when reading such insincere gush, and lost the will to live themselves.

            Or maybe they do have inside information and the order has been changed.

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            • cloughie
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              • Dec 2011
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              #51
              Originally posted by EdgeleyRob View Post
              True enough,but it would just be nice once in a while for a neglected British symphony to be the main work in a concert.

              Job is RVW's third greatest work,after the 9th symphony and Pilgrim's Progress (only IMVHO of course).
              1 Job
              2 Sym 5
              3 Sym 3
              4 Sym 2
              5 Sym 4

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              • EdgeleyRob
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                • Nov 2010
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                #52
                1. 9th Symphony.
                2. The Pilgrim's Progress.
                3. Job.
                4. 5th Symphony.
                5. Dona Nobis Pacem.

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                • ferneyhoughgeliebte
                  Gone fishin'
                  • Sep 2011
                  • 30163

                  #53
                  1) 5th
                  2) 3rd
                  3) Tallis
                  4) 6th
                  5) 9th
                  6) 4th
                  7) Job
                  8) Antartica
                  9) Pilgrim's Progress
                  10) Dona Nobis
                  11) Flos Campi
                  12) Lark, London, Serenade to Music
                  [FONT=Comic Sans MS][I][B]Numquam Satis![/B][/I][/FONT]

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                  • Pulcinella
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                    • Feb 2014
                    • 11071

                    #54
                    So what's wrong with the eighth, fhg?

                    Far too hard for me, but Job and S5 at the top, as mentioned previously.
                    I like the oboe concerto a lot too.

                    Setting off Londonwards in half an hour or so.
                    This had better be good!

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                    • ferneyhoughgeliebte
                      Gone fishin'
                      • Sep 2011
                      • 30163

                      #55
                      Originally posted by Pulcinella View Post
                      So what's wrong with the eighth, fhg?
                      Avoiding the temptation to say "just about everything", I'll content myself with "Me; that's what's wrong with the Eighth Symphony. In spite of my four recordings (Barbirolli, Boult, Handley and Haitink) and frequent attempts at other performances and recordings, I cannot hear this work as anything other than a collection of individual movements, each with its individual "moment", but lacking the jaw-dropping craftsmanship and intensity of the composer's finest work.)

                      Still prefer it to the Sea Symphony, but there are other works (by RVW and others) that I find repay my time and attention with far greater effect.
                      [FONT=Comic Sans MS][I][B]Numquam Satis![/B][/I][/FONT]

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                      • Ferretfancy
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                        • Nov 2010
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                        #56
                        Originally posted by mercia View Post
                        Alwyn 1's only other proms outing
                        The world's greatest classical music festival - stunning performances and collaborations.

                        I wonder if that really was the running-order
                        Yes, that sort of running order was common back then, a neat arrangement so that half the audience could disappear at the interval. Planners are a bit more savvy today.

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                        • Sir Velo
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                          • Oct 2012
                          • 3262

                          #57
                          Originally posted by Pulcinella View Post
                          So what's wrong with the eighth, fhg?

                          Far too hard for me, but Job and S5 at the top, as mentioned previously.
                          I like the oboe concerto a lot too.

                          Setting off Londonwards in half an hour or so.
                          This had better be good!
                          "Symphony by a Londoner" for me. Faultless, in spite of its faults.

                          The "Sea" is rising in my estimation on each hearing.

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                          • EnemyoftheStoat
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                            • Nov 2010
                            • 1135

                            #58
                            Originally posted by Sir Velo View Post
                            The "Sea" is rising in my estimation on each hearing.
                            So you are globally warming to it?

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                            • Nick Armstrong
                              Host
                              • Nov 2010
                              • 26574

                              #59
                              Originally posted by EnemyoftheStoat View Post
                              So you are globally warming to it?


                              One liner of the month, EotS
                              "...the isle is full of noises,
                              Sounds and sweet airs, that give delight and hurt not.
                              Sometimes a thousand twangling instruments
                              Will hum about mine ears, and sometime voices..."

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                              • Nick Armstrong
                                Host
                                • Nov 2010
                                • 26574

                                #60
                                1) 5th
                                2) Tallis
                                3) Job, Sea
                                4) London, Flos Campi, Dives & Lazarus
                                5) 8th, Serenade to Music
                                "...the isle is full of noises,
                                Sounds and sweet airs, that give delight and hurt not.
                                Sometimes a thousand twangling instruments
                                Will hum about mine ears, and sometime voices..."

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