Prom 29 - 8.08.14: BBC Phil, Grosvenor / Goode / Noseda

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  • Eine Alpensinfonie
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    • Nov 2010
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    Prom 29 - 8.08.14: BBC Phil, Grosvenor / Goode / Noseda

    Friday, 8 August
    6.30 p.m. – c. 9.10 p.m.
    Royal Albert Hall

    Casella: Elegia eroica (first performance at The Proms)
    Chopin: Concerto for Piano No. 1 in E minor, Op 11

    Franck: Variations Symphoniques
    Saint-Saëns: Symphony No. 3 in C minor, 'Organ'

    Benjamin Grosvenor, piano
    David Goode, organ

    Casella's powerful "Heroic Elegy", dedicated to the "unknown soldier", opens the concert and continues this year's Proms series of works written in the shadow of the First World War. Former BBC Radio 3 New Generation Artist Benjamin Grosvenor joins the orchestra for Chopin's lyrical but virtuosic First Piano Concerto and, after the interval, returns as soloist in Franck's Symphonic Variations. Saint-Saëns's thrilling journey from darkness to blazing light, the "Organ" Symphony, closes the programme.


    BBC Philharmonic
    Gianandrea Noseda, conductor
    Last edited by Eine Alpensinfonie; 01-08-14, 18:13.
  • Eine Alpensinfonie
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    • Nov 2010
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    #2
    Recalling the Franck thread, the Symphonic a Variations were once so popular that they were included as a volume of the Penguin Scores series in the 1950s.

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    • mercia
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      • Nov 2010
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      #3
      is that the Casella who did something to Islamey ?

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      • cloughie
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        #4
        Originally posted by mercia View Post
        is that the Casella who did something to Islamey ?
        Indeed the same mercs.



        I think Noseda has been a champion of his works with a number of BBCPO recordings on Chandos. Also there are a number on Naxos - Orchestra Sinfonica Di Roma/Francesco La Vecchia. My only CDs of his work are of Paganiniana - one with Cantelli on Testament and one by Kondrashin - the filler to his complete Daphnis on Philips.

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        • Serial_Apologist
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          • Dec 2010
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          #5
          Originally posted by cloughie View Post
          Indeed the same mercs.
          ...and hugely overlooked by the BBC for as long as I can remember. I often wonder why. Fascist connections?

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          • mercia
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            • Nov 2010
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            #6
            only just noticed 6:30pm start

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            • teamsaint
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              • Nov 2010
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              #7
              Originally posted by mercia View Post
              only just noticed 6:30pm start
              Why all the 6.30 starts ?
              Seemed to manage In previous years when there was a late nighter.
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              • Nick Armstrong
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                • Nov 2010
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                #8
                Originally posted by teamsaint View Post
                Why all the 6.30 starts ?
                Seemed to manage In previous years when there was a late nighter.
                A point I was making only a couple of hours ago to rubbernecker who like me is going to the Alwyn/VW Prom and which (he had not spotted) is another 6.30 kick-off...

                No idea why the previous practice of 7pm starts before late-nighters has been changed.
                "...the isle is full of noises,
                Sounds and sweet airs, that give delight and hurt not.
                Sometimes a thousand twangling instruments
                Will hum about mine ears, and sometime voices..."

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                • mercia
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                  • Nov 2010
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                  #9
                  soloist and orchestra seemed to be out-of-sync a fair amount in the Franck

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                  • antongould
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                    • Nov 2010
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                    #10
                    Originally posted by mercia View Post
                    soloist and orchestra seemed to be out-of-sync a fair amount in the Franck
                    Not to be recommended then mercs? It is one of my favourite pieces and, shamefully, I didn't even realise it was scheduled. ...

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                    • Alison
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                      • Nov 2010
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                      #11
                      I too love the Franck but something just felt wrong about this programme which for me is perhaps best sampled on the I player. A Casella symphony would have been much more interesting.

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                      • Rolmill
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                        • Nov 2010
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                        #12
                        I was there last night and enjoyed it very much overall. In particular, Benjamin Grosvenor's playing was lovely - delicate touch, gorgeous tone and bravura when needed. The Franck was indeed ragged in places, it looked as though the orchestra was slow to respond to Noseda's windmill-like attempts to get them moving in some of the later tuttis, but the Chopin worked much better and sounded like it had received the lion's share of rehearsal time.

                        The Casella was quite striking in places, but didn't leave a strong impression as a coherent entity. The Saint-Saens, one of my favourite "feel good" pieces was marvellous, with overwhelming organ where needed and some fine orchestral playing.

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                        • Ferretfancy
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                          • Nov 2010
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                          #13
                          Originally posted by Rolmill View Post
                          I was there last night and enjoyed it very much overall. In particular, Benjamin Grosvenor's playing was lovely - delicate touch, gorgeous tone and bravura when needed. The Franck was indeed ragged in places, it looked as though the orchestra was slow to respond to Noseda's windmill-like attempts to get them moving in some of the later tuttis, but the Chopin worked much better and sounded like it had received the lion's share of rehearsal time.

                          The Casella was quite striking in places, but didn't leave a strong impression as a coherent entity. The Saint-Saens, one of my favourite "feel good" pieces was marvellous, with overwhelming organ where needed and some fine orchestral playing.
                          It was very enjoyable, as you say, and full marks to Benjamin Grosvenor. Am I the only person who finds both the Chopin piano concertos vacuous in the extreme?

                          The orchestral writing is subfusc at best, while the piano seems to be giving us repeated arabesques most of the time, pretty, yes, but rather pointless.

                          I'll take cover !

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                          • Serial_Apologist
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                            #14
                            Originally posted by Alison View Post
                            I too love the Franck but something just felt wrong about this programme which for me is perhaps best sampled on the I player. A Casella symphony would have been much more interesting.
                            I DO wish someone would revive the marvellously rousing, sunshine-filled Partita for piano and small orchestra of 1925 - one of Casella's first neoclassical works:

                            Cover image: painting by Alessandro Tofanelli.Alfredo Casella (1883-1947): Partita per pianoforte e piccola orchestra, Op.42 (1924/1925).I. Sinfonia. Allegro...


                            The style, which has not yet congealed, is a decluttered Milhaud with pre-echoes of later Hindemith, and there's a touchingly Mediterraneanised reminiscence of the early Mahler of "Das Knaben" midway through the slow movement. I challenge anybody not to feel lifted by this infectious, brilliantly crafted music.

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                            • amateur51

                              #15
                              Originally posted by teamsaint View Post
                              Why all the 6.30 starts ?
                              Seemed to manage In previous years when there was a late nighter.
                              Praps the in-house staff have rebelled?

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