Proms audience behaviour

[LeMartinPecheur]

Possibly not - even today programmes - or performers - request that the audience should wait until the end of a group of songs before applauding.

Obviously true for piano-accompanied song recitals. But not surely for orchestral ones? Kindertotenlieder were published only in orchestral form with Mahler's imprimatur I think.

[Oliver]

I should report that someone shouted "Yippee" or something equally puerile (it may have been Billy Bunter's immortal "Yaroo") at the conclusion of the first movement of the Mahler 6. Whether this was picked up by the BBC mikes, I don't know. However, I do know that it was followed by ClassicFM-inspired applause and that (for me) the start of the second movement was ruined.

[Bryn]

I should report that someone shouted "Yippee" or something equally puerile (it may have been Billy Bunter's immortal "Yaroo") at the conclusion of the first movement of the Mahler 6. Whether this was picked up by the BBC mikes, I don't know. However, I do know that it was followed by ClassicFM-inspired applause and that (for me) the start of the second movement was ruined.

Oh dear. How sad. Never mind.

This is, of course, a multi-movement work in relation to which it's composer had a deal of trouble even deciding the order of those movements. Still, if one's level of involvement in active listening is so meager that a little interstitial applause and other enthusiastic expressions of approbation can disrupt it, perhaps the problem is not that of the clappers.

[visualnickmos]

. . . combined with a perfume and/or after-shave monitor, please! Some of the scents can be just too much - at least for my oversensitive nose.

Yep - we'll build that one in, too, definitely. The pong of half a litre of Kouros or Chanel No5 can be a health risk - even potentially combustible!

[Lento]

I should report that someone shouted "Yippee" or something equally puerile (it may have been Billy Bunter's immortal "Yaroo") at the conclusion of the first movement of the Mahler 6. Whether this was picked up by the BBC mikes, I don't know. However, I do know that it was followed by ClassicFM-inspired applause and that (for me) the start of the second movement was ruined.

It came through loud and clear, I'm afraid, plus the ripple of applause. That's what prompted the thread

[visualnickmos]

I'd rather sit next to someone with a natural smell than wearing a liberal application of the dreadful perfumes sold by fasion houses (or fading footballers etc).

The belief that the smell of a deodorant is better than a natural body smell is yet another Americanisation of European culture.

Agreed - see my earlier post.....

[french frank]

perhaps the problem is not that of the clappers.

Oh, the problem if not 'Of the clappers', surely, but 'the clappers'.

I quoted Judith Weir on the other thread:

"Listening is also a skill, and I intend to uphold our rights to quietness and even silence, where appropriate."

[Bryn]

Oh, the problem if not 'Of the clappers', surely, but 'the clappers'.

I quoted Judith Weir on the other thread:

"Listening is also a skill, and I intend to uphold our rights to quietness and even silence, where appropriate."

So when do you intend to start the campaign against coughing, throat clearing, retuning, etc. between movements of a multi-movement work? Oh, and what makes you think your quote from Judith Weir applies here? Could she not have had ubiquitous Muzak and its clones in mind?

[Nachtigall]

Oh dear. How sad. Never mind.

This is, of course, a multi-movement work in relation to which it's composer had a deal of trouble even deciding the order of those movements. Still, if one's level of involvement in active listening is so meager that a little interstitial applause and other enthusiastic expressions of approbation can disrupt it, perhaps the problem is not that of the clappers.

I note that you've edited your post, Bryn, but that your use of the apostrophe is as erroneously libertarian as your attitude to applause between movements.
And though you are sarcastic and condescending in your response to Oliver, I must say I wholly agree with him.

[Bryn]

I note that you've edited your post, Bryn, but that your use of the apostrophe is as erroneously libertarian as your attitude to applause between movements.
And though you are sarcastic and condescending in your response to Oliver, I must say I wholly agree with him.

How is it you manged to miss the sarcasm and condescension of Oliver's reference to Classic FM?

[Nachtigall]

How is it you manged to miss the sarcasm and condescension of Oliver's reference to Classic FM?

Well, Classic FM is a perfectly appropriate target of satirical abuse.

[Bryn]

Well, Classic FM is a perfectly appropriate target of satirical abuse.

As are those moaning about the historically apposite practice of applauding between the movements of a multi-movement work.

[french frank]

So when do you intend to start the campaign against coughing, throat clearing, retuning, etc. between movements of a multi-movement work? Oh, and what makes you think your quote from Judith Weir applies here? Could she not have had ubiquitous Muzak and its clones in mind?

I'm not intending to start a campaign - not even against clapping between movements.

The reasons why people clap are various: there's no point in trying to take on, for instance, people who do it to show how adaptable they are and can move with the times unlike the old stick-in-the-muds; nor those who consider that because in past centuries it was the norm it shows it's perfectly reasonable to do so now; nor those who are simply unaware that the tradition has built up over many years. And so on. What other people do affects me very little: the underlying psychological make-up of those who have fixed views interests me, though.

[Lento]

Re: "Still, if one's level of involvement in active listening is so meager that a little interstitial applause and other enthusiastic expressions of approbation can disrupt it, perhaps the problem is not that of the clappers".

I wouldn't have thought it oversensitive to object to people shouting "yippee" after a rather tragic piece of music.

[MrGongGong]

Oh, the problem if not 'Of the clappers', surely, but 'the clappers'.

I quoted Judith Weir on the other thread:

"Listening is also a skill, and I intend to uphold our rights to quietness and even silence, where appropriate."

I would think that the key 2 words are the last two
Responding with enthusiasm and clapping at The Proms would seem to be highly appropriate IMV
Maybe a huge WHOOOOOOP in between notes at 11:30 Feldman in St Pauls Hall isn't