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  • Stanfordian
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    • Dec 2010
    • 9291

    No Haydn!

    I've just read that there is not a note of Haydn being played at this year's BBC Proms. It's hard to believe that this master composer is not represented. Personally I'd be happy if a Haydn work was programmed at every concert I heard.
    Last edited by Stanfordian; 10-07-14, 14:30.
  • gurnemanz
    Full Member
    • Nov 2010
    • 7357

    #2
    Originally posted by Stanfordian View Post
    Personally I'd be happy if a Haydn work was programmed at every concert I heard.
    Presumably Prince Esterházy would be with you there.

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    • Lento
      Full Member
      • Jan 2014
      • 646

      #3
      But we have a fair bit of Mozart, including symphonies 1 and 40. Mozart symphonies were an omission from some recent seasons (not that it worries me too much, I have to say).

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      • MrGongGong
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        • Nov 2010
        • 18357

        #4
        No

        Boulez
        Cage
        Stockhausen
        Feldman
        Ligeti
        Xenakis



        and so on and so on and so on ........

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        • Serial_Apologist
          Full Member
          • Dec 2010
          • 37355

          #5
          Originally posted by MrGongGong View Post
          No

          Boulez
          Cage
          Stockhausen
          Feldman
          Ligeti
          Xenakis



          and so on and so on and so on ........
          The few Proms this year of any interest to me also include at least one work I happen to detest - so, there's no going back, though the two new modernist works being premiered I shall definitely tune in for are:

          Aug 15 - Bernard Rands: Piano Concerto
          Aug 16 - Benedict Mason - Meld

          As in previous years there are however a number of Cadogan Hall afternoon chamber proms I have down as must attends:

          July 28 - All CPE Bach
          Aug 9 - CPE Bach, Honegger, Birtwistle, Sibelius
          Aug 30 - PM Davies portrait
          Sept 6 - Birtwistle portrait

          I wonder why these chamber proms are not included in the Radio Times Proms pullout....

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          • Stanfordian
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            • Dec 2010
            • 9291

            #6
            Originally posted by gurnemanz View Post
            Presumably Prince Esterházy would be with you there.
            Hello gurnemanz,

            Maybe I'm related to Prince Esterházy.

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            • maestro267
              Full Member
              • Nov 2010
              • 355

              #7
              There's no Havergal Brian or Krzysztof Penderecki either. They can't satisfy everyone.

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              • french frank
                Administrator/Moderator
                • Feb 2007
                • 29922

                #8
                There were a lot of works in ........ 2009 (wonder why?). Since then I can only see one string quartet (2010) and one symphony 2012. I suppose they haven't yet recovered from the riches of the bicentenary of his death.
                It isn't given us to know those rare moments when people are wide open and the lightest touch can wither or heal. A moment too late and we can never reach them any more in this world.

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                • P. G. Tipps
                  Full Member
                  • Jun 2014
                  • 2978

                  #9
                  Have the Proms Powers-That-Be something of a seriously chronic allergy when it comes to Austrian composers ... ? (if one excludes that Bohemian Mahler)

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                  • Barbirollians
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                    • Nov 2010
                    • 11530

                    #10
                    With the very greatest of respect to the other composers mentioned on this thread - Haydn is in a different league .

                    His neglect at the Proms is scandalous . Surely some HIPP orchestra could have been invited along to play a symphony or two .

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                    • cloughie
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                      • Dec 2011
                      • 22072

                      #11
                      Originally posted by Barbirollians View Post
                      With the very greatest of respect to the other composers mentioned on this thread - Haydn is in a different league .

                      His neglect at the Proms is scandalous . Surely some HIPP orchestra could have been invited along to play a symphony or two .
                      To be honest I do not need HIPP Haydn - my intro to Haydn was Beecham - play it like that and I'm happy -102'll do!

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                      • MrGongGong
                        Full Member
                        • Nov 2010
                        • 18357

                        #12
                        Originally posted by Barbirollians View Post
                        With the very greatest of respect to the other composers mentioned on this thread - Haydn is in a different league .

                        His neglect at the Proms is scandalous . Surely some HIPP orchestra could have been invited along to play a symphony or two .
                        That's an opinion NOT a fact IMV
                        (not that I have anything "against" Haydn

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                        • Barbirollians
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                          • Nov 2010
                          • 11530

                          #13
                          Originally posted by MrGongGong View Post
                          That's an opinion NOT a fact IMV
                          (not that I have anything "against" Haydn
                          I suggest it would be a widely held opinion . I regard it as a fact .

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                          • MrGongGong
                            Full Member
                            • Nov 2010
                            • 18357

                            #14
                            Originally posted by Barbirollians View Post
                            I suggest it would be a widely held opinion . I regard it as a fact .
                            That's a dangerous road to take

                            One could argue that there's plenty of Haydn about and it's easy to seek it out

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                            • richardfinegold
                              Full Member
                              • Sep 2012
                              • 7541

                              #15
                              By coincidence I had ordered Colin Davis recordings ofthe London Symphonies with the Concertgebouw and have been playing them quite a bit these last two days. They are just marvelous example of what a Conductor with a sense of style and a flair for orchestral colorand balances can produce with a non HIPP Orchestra.
                              Barbs, maybe the London Symphonies are why the left Haydn off the Proms schedule this year. Perhaps someone reasons that your Capital has done a lot in the past to promote his music

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