Proms

[Pabmusic]

Pabmusic, Are your orchestrations "in the manner of" (like Baker's), or have you done them in an own idiom?

I take it you mean Lance Baker's (Ruth Gipps' son).

Well, they're not consciously in the manner of anything, except that I didn't want to sound anachronistic. So there's no synth., for instance. I've only used instruments he used himself. But it's Butterworth's music, not mine, and I was conscious of not wanting to muck about with the music of a very fine composer. And it's a smaller orchestra than Baker's.

Take the Shropshire Lad rhapsody. It's a very large orchestra, but hardly ever used at full power. It's all rather delicate - almost chamber orchestra, in fact, and that's what I wanted to convey. Look at how he orchestrated Love Blows as the Wind Blows.

[Roehre]

I take it you mean Lance Baker's (Ruth Gipps' son).

Well, they're not consciously in the manner of anything, except that I didn't want to sound anachronistic. So there's no synth., for instance. I've only used instruments he used himself. But it's Butterworth's music, not mine, and I was conscious of not wanting to muck about with the music of a very fine composer. And it's a smaller orchestra than Baker's.

Take the Shropshire Lad rhapsody. It's a very large orchestra, but hardly ever used at full power. It's all rather delicate - almost chamber orchestra, in fact, and that's what I wanted to convey. Look at how he orchestrated Love Blows as the Wind Blows.

Delicate orchestrations (and instrumentations too, btw) indeed.
Prefer Love Blows as the Wind Blows in its orchestral guise more than the piano one, btw.
Very much looking forward to the August 17th Prom

[Prommer]

No Bruckner AT ALL. Strauss operas: Rosenkavalier from Glyndebourne, also Salome and Elektra, as someone has already said...

[Honoured Guest]

And no outreach to Hall for Cornwall, which I hear, on this morning's news, is now recognised as a nation in the UK. Very convenient - as Cornwall can adopt a new national flag remarkably similar to the St Andrew's Cross if Scotland achieves independence, and so the UK can rationally retain the Union Jack flag and can remain a state of three nations with a colonised corner of a fourth nation attached.

[mrbouffant]

Delighted to secure a Proms Guide this morning at a local Waterstones.

Thrilled that we will get a chance to hear William Mathias' Violin Concerto on 6th August. The reworking of Arnold's Peterloo Overture at the Last Night (with lyrics) should be interesting too...

[mrbouffant]

2014 Proms Guide is now live on the BBC site: http://www.bbc.co.uk/proms
WOO
Have a good summer, everyone !

[Tevot]

2014 Proms Guide is now live on the BBC site: http://www.bbc.co.uk/proms
WOO
Have a good summer, everyone !

Thank you Mister Hairdoo

Best Wishes,

Tevot

[Thropplenoggin]

A bit underwhelmed, not sure why. I expect a lot of Sibelius symphonies are being kept for 2015 (150th anniversary). I also lament the lack of Bruckner as a new fan...the RAH seems the perfect space for those vast soundscapes.

Still, plenty of big band stuff which I feel works well in the RAH, like Mahler and Beethoven, and a few visiting conductors/orchestras: it'd be nice to hear Ivan Fischer/Budapest Festival Orchestra in the flesh rather than on disc.

Rattle/Berliners in L' oiseau de feu is a good opportunity to see this orchestra (shame about the conductor ) Oh wow - they're doing the St Matthew Passion! I might have to shelve my Rattle-phobia for that!

Beethoven 9 and Mahler 3 with the Chailly/Gewandhaus Orchestra looks an enticing back-to-back prospect in September.

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Pabs, will you be heading back to Blighty to hear your work performed? Could be a good excuse for a Forum meet-up, I'd have thought.

[moeranbiogman]

Amid all the excitement of 'rare' British Music may I recommend the Moeran Violin Concerto which will be played by Tasmin Little in PROM 10 on July 25th. This piece deserves recognition and a more permanent place in the repertoire.

[Thropplenoggin]

Is the 'War Horse' prom a Breakfast Show special?

[David Underdown]

Ah...Rudi Stephan (a German) died fighting the Russians on the eastern front. Frederick Kelly (an Aussie) died at Gallipoli. GSKB (a Brit) died at Pozieres. I'm not entirely sure, but I suspect that none of their bodies were recovered. Butterworth's certainly wasn't, which is why he appears on the Memorial to the Missing of the Somme at Thiepval (one of 74,000). Of course, 'never recovered' often means 'couldn't be identified', which isn't really the same thing.

Kelly certainly served at Gallipoli (and was present at Rupert Brooke's funeral en route), but he was also killed on the Somme, as Lt Cdr with the Royal Naval Division (which was an infantry force). He is buried at Martinsart. Butterworth was buried at the side of the trench where he was felled by a sniper, but his grave could not subsequently be identified, and so he is commemorated on the Thiepval Memorial.

[Pabmusic]

Kelly certainly served at Gallipoli (and was present at Rupert Brooke's funeral en route), but he was also killed on the Somme, as Lt Cdr with the Royal Naval Division (which was an infantry force). He is buried at Martinsart...

Thanks. That's helpful.

[David Underdown]

You can view photos of Butterworth's service record at https://www.flickr.com/photos/112263...7626145614787/ which I took a few years ago (I work at The National Archives). Kelly's service record can be downloaded (for a fee) from http://discovery.nationalarchives.go...s?uri=D7278883, and a further file at http://discovery.nationalarchives.go...s?uri=D8642673 (also for a fee).

[Thropplenoggin]

Schumann is also represented by a single work (Piano Concerto).

[Eine Alpensinfonie]

I see Henry Wood's Sea Fantasia has been moved to the c-Beebies Prom, and cut down to 2 minutes, which is what might happen on Breakfast, but surely not at the Proms.