Proms Chamber Music 8 - 2.09.13: Dowland

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  • Eine Alpensinfonie
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    • Nov 2010
    • 20576

    Proms Chamber Music 8 - 2.09.13: Dowland

    1.00pm – c. 2.00pm
    Cadogan Hall

    Dowland
    The King of Denmark's Galliard (2 mins)
    Dowland
    Can she excuse my wrongs (The Earl of Essex's Galliard) (4 mins)
    Dowland
    Flow, my tears (Lachrimae antiquae) (4 mins)
    Dowland
    My thoughts are winged with hopes (Sir John Souch's Galliard) (4 mins)
    Dowland
    Farewell Fancy (Chromatic fantasia) (5 mins)
    Dowland
    Sorrow, stay, lend true repentent tears (4 mins)
    Dowland
    Come again, sweet love doth now invite (3 mins)
    Dowland
    Mr John Langton's Pavan (5 mins)
    Dowland
    I saw my lady weep (6 mins)
    Dowland
    Lachrimae amantis (3 mins)
    Dowland
    If my complaints could passions move (Captain Digorie Piper's Galliard) (4 mins)
    Dowland
    Lachrimae tristes (5 mins)
    Dowland
    In darkness let me dwell (3 mins)
    Dowland
    Shall I strive with words to move (Sir Henry Noel's Galliard) (3 mins)

    Fretwork
    Ian Bostridge tenor
    Elizabeth Kenny lute, Proms debut artist

    In a concert to mark his birth, 450 years ago, singer Ian Bostridge, lutenist Elizabeth Kenny and viol consort Fretwork explore the music of John Dowland. Courtier, composer, internationally famous performer and occasional spy, Dowland was described by a contemporary as someone "whose heavenly touch upon the lute doth ravish human sense". Today's concert explores both that ravishing music - in songs, dances and instrumental works - and also Dowland's world and life - through musical portraits of his friends, associates and employers. And it includes the song which became his musical calling-card, one of the best known vocal works of the 17th century, and which came to be seen as the epitome of English melancholy: 'Flow my tears'.
    Last edited by Eine Alpensinfonie; 27-08-13, 15:55.
  • Eine Alpensinfonie
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    • Nov 2010
    • 20576

    #2
    Potentially a wonderful concert with no sting.

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    • Richard Tarleton

      #3
      Originally posted by Eine Alpensinfonie View Post
      Potentially a wonderful concert with no sting.
      Indeed - though I also have to confess to an IB allergy, too precious by half in Dowland. I tried for a couple of tickets but missed out, so shall be listening on R3. (Presumably the film version will be on i-Player, like the Norwegian ladies?) Fretwork and Liz Kenny are both excellent. Getting an all-Dowland concert is a rare treat and a credit to the Proms, so I shouldn't grumble.

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      • Richard Tarleton

        #4
        I can only feel relieved I failed to get a ticket for this.

        Fretwork are excellent, but I had to switch over for a while (after Liz Kenny's Chromatic Fantasia) because I find Bostridge's voice, especially in this repertoire, close to unbearable. It's getting worse. As I'm not a voice coach I find it hard to describe exactly what I hear, but there's a sort of ring behind it, something I imagine to do with the way the voice is produced. At times it can sound arch, at others strangulated, sometimes forced. At all times it sounds (to me) over-studied and over-produced. Compare him in this repertoire to the simple clear unforced tenor of a Martyn Hill ofr a Wilfred Brown, or the counter-tenor of Iestyn Davies (eg at the recent York Early Music Festival, with Thomas Dunford) or Michael Chance (whom I have on a CD of Byrd and Dowland with, er, Fretwork), and it might be clearer what I mean.

        My experience of Dowland performance goes back to hearing Pears and Bream performing Dowland in the 1960s. As with Pears, I daresay Bostridge is vocal Marmite - I know he has his admirers on this forum. I have a similar problem with Mark Padmore - I briefly owned a Dowland CD of him with Liz Kenny, until I gave it away.

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        • LeMartinPecheur
          Full Member
          • Apr 2007
          • 4717

          #5
          Originally posted by Richard Tarleton View Post
          I can only feel relieved I failed to get a ticket for this.

          Fretwork are excellent, but I had to switch over for a while (after Liz Kenny's Chromatic Fantasia) because I find Bostridge's voice, especially in this repertoire, close to unbearable. It's getting worse. As I'm not a voice coach I find it hard to describe exactly what I hear, but there's a sort of ring behind it, something I imagine to do with the way the voice is produced. At times it can sound arch, at others strangulated, sometimes forced. At all times it sounds (to me) over-studied and over-produced. Compare him in this repertoire to the simple clear unforced tenor of a Martyn Hill ofr a Wilfred Brown, or the counter-tenor of Iestyn Davies (eg at the recent York Early Music Festival, with Thomas Dunford) or Michael Chance (whom I have on a CD of Byrd and Dowland with, er, Fretwork), and it might be clearer what I mean.

          My experience of Dowland performance goes back to hearing Pears and Bream performing Dowland in the 1960s. As with Pears, I daresay Bostridge is vocal Marmite - I know he has his admirers on this forum. I have a similar problem with Mark Padmore - I briefly owned a Dowland CD of him with Liz Kenny, until I gave it away.
          I was less than impressed too. 'In darkness let me dwell' seemed to be made hopelessly discontinuous by his different inflections of words in the same sentence, and the strong (bizarre) colourings applied seemed to wreck intonation. Some other songs were better, but I'm not rushing to repeat the experience.
          I keep hitting the Escape key, but I'm still here!

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          • jean
            Late member
            • Nov 2010
            • 7100

            #6
            Did I really hear the announcer telling me that I had just heard a Fantasia for solo flute?

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            • doversoul1
              Ex Member
              • Dec 2010
              • 7132

              #7
              I couldn’t listen to the live broadcast so I was very much looking forward to hearing it on iPlayer, and I’ve just heard the beginning of the programme… oh no… oh dear…

              I am aware that there are many different ways of singing Dowland and there are some I am not too keen on but this, to me, sounded positively WRONG. Bostridge could well have been singing Puccini. As Richard says, there is a list of countertenors, including Robin Blaze, who are wonderful in Dowland songs. If countertenor is not the choice, there are many tenors whose voice and singing style are far better suited to Dowland’s music. What a pity.

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              • LeMartinPecheur
                Full Member
                • Apr 2007
                • 4717

                #8
                Originally posted by jean View Post
                Did I really hear the announcer telling me that I had just heard a Fantasia for solo flute?
                I certainly shared the same illusion!
                I keep hitting the Escape key, but I'm still here!

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                • Richard Tarleton

                  #9
                  Originally posted by jean View Post
                  Did I really hear the announcer telling me that I had just heard a Fantasia for solo flute?
                  You did indeed, jean . Really, his job isn't that difficult. He didn't seem to hear himself say it, either. Richard Boothby also mis-spoke, saying that Dowland fell in with some Catholic plotters who were "plotting the downfall of the King [sic]", but then I'm sure the last thing he wanted to be doing in the circs was talking.

                  Fretwork and Liz Kenny played beautifully. I have just watched the video on iPlayer, fast-forwarding the Bostridge bits - the Chromatic Fantasia for, er, lute is at 12.06, and the concert hits a sweet spot at 31.03 with Mr John Langton's Pavan and Lachrimae amantis. For other Bostridge-avoiders, the Lachrimae tristis is at 52.26. Liz Kenny is playing a 10 course lute (the lute was growing rapidly in the late 16th century, an earlier Renaissance lute like the one I briefly played would have had 6 courses and have been about half the size!). She is a most sensitive consort player.

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                  • jean
                    Late member
                    • Nov 2010
                    • 7100

                    #10
                    The playing was beautiful, but I agree with everyone else here that Bostridge was just wrong.

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