Prom 38 - 11.08.13: Free Prom – Beethoven's Ninth Symphony

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  • Eine Alpensinfonie
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    • Nov 2010
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    Prom 38 - 11.08.13: Free Prom – Beethoven's Ninth Symphony

    7.30pm – c. 9.45pm
    Royal Albert Hall

    Vaughan Williams
    Toward the Unknown Region (11 mins)
    Mark-Anthony Turnage
    Frieze (15 mins)
    BBC co-commission with the Royal Philharmonic Society and the New York Philharmonic: world premiere
    INTERVAL
    Beethoven
    Symphony No. 9 in D minor, 'Choral' (70 mins)

    Ailish Tynan soprano
    Jennifer Johnston mezzo-soprano
    Toby Spence tenor
    Gerald Finley baritone
    Codetta
    Irish Youth Chamber Choir
    National Youth Choir of Great Britain
    National Youth Orchestra of Great Britain
    Vasily Petrenko conductor
    Last edited by french frank; 12-08-13, 20:39. Reason: Changes of performer
  • Eine Alpensinfonie
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    • Nov 2010
    • 20576

    #2
    The work that is likely to stimulate the least amount of discussion from this programme is probably VW's Toward the Unknown Region. However this is one of my favourite choral works, and has been so since my uncle lent me a Malcolm Sargent recording in 1961.
    Last edited by Eine Alpensinfonie; 11-08-13, 18:11.

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    • Eine Alpensinfonie
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      • Nov 2010
      • 20576

      #3
      Is anyone else out there?

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      • Anna

        #4
        Originally posted by Eine Alpensinfonie View Post
        Is anyone else out there?
        Yes! I am! I have a possibly misplaced fondness for Turnage, his Scorched is one of my favourites, I did not enjoy so much his Blood on the Floor (Carpet?) I need to check that cd. The RVW I know not, Beethoven of course .. what can you say? Always welcome on a Sunday evening!

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        • Bert Coules
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          • Nov 2010
          • 763

          #5
          Is it actually free? No admission charge at all?

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          • BBMmk2
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            • Nov 2010
            • 20908

            #6
            Yes it is Bert! I love the RVW to EA! I have it on EMI's RVW Edition and that Naxos recording as well. Very strongly recommend this work to anyone, who doesn't know it!

            I also have a liking for Turnage's music as well, so be interesting to find out what he has produced with this one!
            Don’t cry for me
            I go where music was born

            J S Bach 1685-1750

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            • Nick Armstrong
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              • Nov 2010
              • 26576

              #7
              Originally posted by Anna View Post
              The RVW I know not, Beethoven of course .. what can you say? Always welcome on a Sunday evening!
              Always welcome, any time. Like EdgeleyR, though perhaps not as strongly as him, I always feel healed, relaxed, the moment I hear that or other similar RVW....


              "...the isle is full of noises,
              Sounds and sweet airs, that give delight and hurt not.
              Sometimes a thousand twangling instruments
              Will hum about mine ears, and sometime voices..."

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              • BBMmk2
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                • Nov 2010
                • 20908

                #8
                Yes, indeed, as do I! It always good to hear.
                Don’t cry for me
                I go where music was born

                J S Bach 1685-1750

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                • edashtav
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                  • Jul 2012
                  • 3672

                  #9
                  Originally posted by Anna View Post
                  ... I have a possibly misplaced fondness for Turnage, his Scorched is one of my favourites, I did not enjoy so much his Blood on the Floor (Carpet?) I need to check that cd. The RVW I know not, Beethoven of course .. what can you say? Always welcome on a Sunday evening!
                  I'm fond of Turnage, too, Anna, and love his Blood on the Floor to bits. However, I've had reservations about some of his recent works. What I like about Turnage most is his ability to create what Virgil Thomson called ( in Louisiana Story) "super sadness": a theme, often on saxophone, that defines for me, the agony of loss. I know that I've criticised Jimmy MacMillan recently for going, once again , through his "back numbers", but when Turnage re-invoked that mood in Frieze, this evening, the emotions it stirred remained visceral and strong. Did others notice a more northern tone - echoes of Jean Sibelius filtered by an Orkney net cast by Max. Davies?

                  TtuR by RVW is a work that I regard as great stuff to sing but not sufficiently digested to form comfortable listening. No doubt,I'm in a minority but I'd put the piece with the Sea Symphony on a shelf labelled "Towards the Known Vaughan Williams".

                  I come from a town (Bournemouth) that's had an Orchestra for well over 100 years and Beethoven Symphony cycles were almost annual under the strict baton of the great Sir Dan Godfrey. Yet, he never conducted a complete Choral Symphony! Not until the Festival of Britain in 1951 did Bournemouth hear its Choral movement and then that arrived with Elizabeth Schwarzkopf singing soprano! My introduction is to indicate that the Choral is a special piece, perhaps not to be heard too often, but once heard, never to be forgotten. I took my reluctant father to his first complete Choral Symphony when Dad was well into middle age. His resistance stemmed from having heard the incomplete torso and having found the slow movement an ineffective ending. My word - did he enjoy the whole work!

                  It was the same tonight, the excitement from the players and singers who were, almost certainly, discovering the glories of Beethoven's 9th, was palpable. Petrenko drove them onwards, sometimes quite furiously. Yes there were rough edges, new tempi took time to establish, isolated chords were "splashy" , sometimes things rushed ahead fuelled by corporate rushes of adrenaline. But,...did I enjoy the "attacca" from the adagio into the finale! I loved the manner in which Petrenko pointed the threat of an interruption by the first movement between sections of the "recitative".

                  Tonight's performance was an "Ode to Joy". A real tonic. These youngsters blew away my years - I experienced with them, once again, the the musical revolution that is the Choral Symphony.

                  Free Concert! A winner - full marks to all at the BBC who showed such imagination in creating this concept. This is the way to bring youngsters to a life full of the wonders of classical music.
                  Last edited by edashtav; 11-08-13, 21:48. Reason: removing sloppiness

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                  • amac4165

                    #10
                    Originally posted by Bert Coules View Post
                    Is it actually free? No admission charge at all?
                    yeap and free programme too !

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                    • Ravensbourne
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                      • Dec 2010
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                      #11
                      Originally posted by amac4165 View Post
                      yeap and free programme too !
                      One between two if you were lucky!

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                      • amac4165

                        #12
                        Originally posted by Ravensbourne View Post
                        One between two if you were lucky!
                        well i was !

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                        • NHTL
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                          • Mar 2007
                          • 42

                          #13
                          So agree with edashtav, I thought that it was a refreshing performance. Well done to all concerned.

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                          • rodney_h_d
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                            • Nov 2010
                            • 103

                            #14
                            Originally posted by Eine Alpensinfonie View Post
                            The work that is likely to stimulate the least amount of discussion from this programme is probably VW's Toward the Unknown Region. However this is one of my favourite choral works, and has been so since my uncle lent me a Malcolm Sargent recording in 1961.
                            I took part in a performance at school but can't remember whether I was singing S A 'T' or B. I'm pretty sure I wasn't playing in the 2nd violins in the orchestra although if I did, I would have sung in the chorus for the rehearsals with piano. Either way I'm afraid I haven't really retained any memory of the work :(

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                            • french frank
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                              • Feb 2007
                              • 30534

                              #15
                              Originally posted by rodney_h_d View Post
                              I took part in a performance at school but can't remember whether I was singing S A 'T' or B. I'm pretty sure I wasn't playing in the 2nd violins in the orchestra although if I did, I would have sung in the chorus for the rehearsals with piano. Either way I'm afraid I haven't really retained any memory of the work :(
                              For the moment I thought you were talking about Beethoven's 9th!

                              Have amended the OP as Toby Spence replaced Andrew Kennedy as the tenor.
                              It isn't given us to know those rare moments when people are wide open and the lightest touch can wither or heal. A moment too late and we can never reach them any more in this world.

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