Prom 28 3.08.13: J. Strauss II, James MacMillan & Beethoven

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  • Eine Alpensinfonie
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    • Nov 2010
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    Prom 28 3.08.13: J. Strauss II, James MacMillan & Beethoven

    7.30pm – c. 9.30pm
    Royal Albert Hall

    Strauss
    By the Beautiful Blue Danube (10 mins)
    James MacMillan
    Violin Concerto (25 mins)
    INTERVAL
    Beethoven
    Overture 'Coriolan' (8 mins)
    Beethoven
    Symphony No. 5 in C minor (33 mins)

    Vadim Repin violin
    BBC Scottish Symphony Orchestra
    Donald Runnicles conductor

    A renowned interpreter of Austro-German repertoire, Donald Runnicles opens this concert with arguably the most famous waltz in the world - The Blue Danube - and the evening ends with the symphony which has one of the most recognisable openings of all time, Beethoven's Fifth.

    James MacMillan's Violin Concerto, which was premiered by Vadim Repin in 2010, is the centrepiece of the concert. The concerto is influenced strongly by Scottish traditional music, as the composer says "Fiddle music has long been under my skin, and in writing a violin concerto it is inevitable that it would rise up to the surface. Its roots are in song and dance, and these most ancient modes of expression and storytelling are at the heart of my new work."
    Last edited by Eine Alpensinfonie; 27-07-13, 10:14.
  • Eine Alpensinfonie
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    • Nov 2010
    • 20576

    #2
    But is it the most famous waltz in the world? Discuss.

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    • ferneyhoughgeliebte
      Gone fishin'
      • Sep 2011
      • 30163

      #3
      Originally posted by Eine Alpensinfonie View Post
      But is it the most famous waltz in the world?
      Yes.

      Discuss.
      Yes, it is.
      [FONT=Comic Sans MS][I][B]Numquam Satis![/B][/I][/FONT]

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      • Eine Alpensinfonie
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        • Nov 2010
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        #4
        When I was young, listening to "Children's Favourites", the most famous waltz in the world was Tchaikovsky's Sleeping Beaty Waltz.

        An there's the so-called Flea Waltz often confused with Chopsticks.

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        • Barbirollians
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          • Nov 2010
          • 11791

          #5
          What about the Valse des Fleurs ? That is just as well known a tune as the Blue Danube !

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          • Petrushka
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            • Nov 2010
            • 12346

            #6
            Originally posted by Eine Alpensinfonie View Post
            But is it the most famous waltz in the world? Discuss.
            Look at it this way: can you ever remember a time when you did not know the Blue Danube? The most famous waltz in the world? Most certainly.
            "The sound is the handwriting of the conductor" - Bernard Haitink

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            • Tapiola
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              • Jan 2011
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              #7
              Originally posted by Petrushka View Post
              Look at it this way: can you ever remember a time when you did not know the Blue Danube? The most famous waltz in the world? Most certainly.
              Brahms famously wrote for an autograph hunter the first phrase of The Blue Danube, inscribing underneath "alas, not by J Brahms."

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              • Eine Alpensinfonie
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                • Nov 2010
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                #8
                Originally posted by Petrushka View Post
                Look at it this way: can you ever remember a time when you did not know the Blue Danube? The most famous waltz in the world? Most certainly.
                I can remember exactly when I first became aware of it. My first contact with Johann Strauss II was the Morning Papers Waltz near the end of the Eclipse Piano Tutor. I loved it. But it was almost a year afterwards that I first stumbled upon the Blue Danube at the age of 10, this time in "Golden Hours". My mother moaned "the cats know that one". I didn't really understand why until I heard the later waltzes in the Blue Danube collection, which I still prefer.

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                • Barbirollians
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                  • Nov 2010
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                  #9
                  I am sure I knew the Nutcracker before the Blue danube- when i was a child just about every dance from the Nutcracker was used for a TV commercial.

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                  • BBMmk2
                    Late Member
                    • Nov 2010
                    • 20908

                    #10
                    Indeed, the most famous waltz but, I will avoid this prom like the plague!
                    Don’t cry for me
                    I go where music was born

                    J S Bach 1685-1750

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                    • pilamenon
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                      • Nov 2010
                      • 454

                      #11
                      Lovely to hear Coriolan back at the Proms.

                      And then the chance to conduct-along-a-Beethoven-symphony.

                      I also enjoyed the quirky MacMillan concerto, but I wouldn't be in a hurry to hear that final movement with the German bits again.

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                      • Petrushka
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                        • Nov 2010
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                        #12
                        Originally posted by pilamenon View Post
                        I also enjoyed the quirky MacMillan concerto, but I wouldn't be in a hurry to hear that final movement with the German bits again.
                        In an interview with MacMillan on R3 before the performance he said he didn't know really know why the 'German bits' were there. Well, if he doesn't I don't know how anyone else can do. There did seem a touch of regret in his voice as if he'd be happier to revise it without the speech. If so I'd agree with him. That element apart I greatly enjoyed the concerto and hope it finds a place in the repertory.
                        "The sound is the handwriting of the conductor" - Bernard Haitink

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                        • Stanley Stewart
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                          • Nov 2010
                          • 1071

                          #13
                          The "we happy few" band of survivors with childhood memories of the 1930s instantly recall our first experience of hearing the Blue Danube in Julien Duvivier's "The Great Waltz" (1938). MGM imported several European performers, Fernand Gravet as the young Johann Strauss, Luise Rainer as his long suffering but faithful wife and Miliza Korjus - the advertising blurb was 'Miliza Korjus - rhymes with gorgeous!'. Rudolf Bing was a contracting agent for MGM and even boasts how he could contract her at a much cheaper rate in his memoir, 5000 Nights at the Opera. I still enjoy my off-air video/DVD recording with her glorious coloratura and those heady sequences of swirling dancers. The Tales from the Vienna Woods sequence and the early morning segment where a dejected Strauss sits on the steps by the Danube and 'hears' the opening bars of his composition are still magical. I'm sure that some will still remember the other 'hit' which played on Family Favourites for a few decades;
                          "One day when we were young,
                          that beautiful morning in May,
                          You told me you loved me..."

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                          • edashtav
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                            • Jul 2012
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                            #14
                            One More Jimmy Mac for the Road, please Barman

                            Originally posted by pilamenon View Post

                            I also enjoyed the quirky MacMillan concerto, but I wouldn't be in a hurry to hear that final movement with the German bits again.
                            If I listen to any more pieces by MacMillan, I shall need to become a Catholic. “Father, forgive me for I’ve enjoyed too many Jimmy Macs.” Yes, Jimmy MacMillan’s music fills me with guilt. Almost always, I enjoy it, yet in a deeply ambivalent manner. Jimmy knows all the tricks of his trade: he scores with the brilliance of a Malcolm Arnold, he creates ersatz melodies with the facility of Serge Prokofiev, he has fun like Max Davies on an awayday in Vegas, and he throws in some Gregorian chants to show that he’s a deep thinker who knows about the mysteries of life and death. In my mind, I hold a loose catalogue of “Jimmyisms”, trademark thumb-prints that he always employs. I tick them off as they come up for review. There was a series of trenchant, luminous “Jimmy” chords with added rhythm that acted almost as a ritornello in the first movement of today’s Violin Concerto. “Arghh,” I thought, “the great-grandson of Veni, Veni Emmanuel, he’s got Evelyn’s eyes.” Were I to add a subtitle to the Violin Concerto, I would use “Joybox” (pace John McCabe!) All the Fun of the Fair… and the Foul! It was like a suite, a great box of indulgent Scottish Candies. Yes, I have a sweet tooth, and once again, I fell for it. But… the guilt that comes from over-indulgence is kicking in … my tummy.

                            Find me a Priest, I think I’m bewitched. Cast out this Scot, this musical devil, from my brain. I am undone.
                            Last edited by edashtav; 05-08-13, 17:27. Reason: sins of omission

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                            • Tony Halstead
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                              • Nov 2010
                              • 1717

                              #15
                              Originally posted by edashtav View Post
                              If I listen to any more pieces by MacMillan, I shall need to become a Catholic. “Father, forgive for I’ve enjoyed too many Jimmy Macs.” Yes, Jimmy MacMillan’s music fills me with guilt. Almost always, I enjoy it, yet in a deeply ambivalent manner. Jimmy knows all the tricks of his trade: he scores with the brilliance of a Malcolm Arnold, he creates ersatz melodies with the facility of Serge Prokofiev, he has fun like Max Davies on an awayday, and he throws in some Gregorian chants to show that he’s a deep thinker who knows about the mysteries of life and death. In my mind, I hold a loose catalogue of “Jimmyisms”, trademark thumb-prints that he always employs. I tick them off as the come up for review. There was a series of trenchant, luminous “Jimmy” chords with added rhythm that acted almost as a ritornello in the first movement of today’s Violin Concerto. “Arghh,” I thought, “the great-grandson of Veni, Veni Emmanuel, he’s got Evelyn’s eyes.” Were I to add a subtitle to the Violin Concerto, I would use “Joybox” (pace John McCabe!) All the Fun of the Fair… and the Foul! It was a great box of indulgent Scottish Candies. Yes, I have a sweet tooth, and once again, I fell for it. But… the guilt that comes from over-indulgence is kicking in … my tummy.

                              Find me a Priest, I think I’m bewitched. Cast out this Scot, this musical devil, from my brain. I am undone.
                              What a great post, edashtav!

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