Prom 13 - 21.07.13: National Youth Orchestra of the United States of America

[EdgeleyRob]

out of interest, because I wasn't watching, was the Magiya omitted from the TV programme ?

Yes it was.

Again I must be hearing different concerts to some listeners,or maybe I'm easily pleased,or not critical enough.

The Tchaikovsky Violin Concerto was nigh on flawless IM non expert O.
DSCH 10 was wonderful too,pity about the clapping after the first movt.
So uplifting to see those young musicians put their hearts and souls into this masterpiece.

[slava]

I was going to comment on the applause after the first movement, and the 'nipped in the bud' attempt after the second. There is a trend, it seems, towards applause after every movement. In my day it was a very special performance indeed that received that sort of treatment, and usually during a concerto rather than a symphony. I really do hope it doesn't catch on. IIRC Mendelssohn had a solution :)

[Richard Tarleton]

I was going to comment on the applause after the first movement, and the 'nipped in the bud' attempt after the second. There is a trend, it seems, towards applause after every movement. In my day it was a very special performance indeed that received that sort of treatment, and usually during a concerto rather than a symphony. I really do hope it doesn't catch on. IIRC Mendelssohn had a solution :)

If there's been discussion of this in this forum so far this season I've missed it. I'm not aware of it spreading beyond the Proms. Barenboim in his Radio Times interview says (with what evidence he doesn't say):

[The Proms] ...gives an opportunity, at affordable prices, for so many people to come who don't go to concerts the rest of the year - the public you see at the Proms, you don't see in the Festival Hall.

This can't be more than partly true - plenty of MBers there for a start - but is it these people who clap between movements? I'm really hoping they don't clap during Bruckner 8, when I'll be there

[mercia]

a shame the encore after the Shostakovich didn't make it to TV - didn't a lad don a cowboy hat and play the banjo ? - I'm not making that up am I ?

didn't Joshua Bell play an encore too ?

[marvin]

If there's been discussion of this in this forum so far this season I've missed it. I'm not aware of it spreading beyond the Proms. Barenboim in his Radio Times interview says (with what evidence he doesn't say):

This can't be more than partly true - plenty of MBers there for a start - but is it these people who clap between movements? I'm really hoping they don't clap during Bruckner 8, when I'll be there

Why don't the organiser actively ask the audience and those not there 'just for a bit of fun' the NOT clap between movements, telling them it is frowned upon and try and be more mature?

I'm sure no one clapped between any works during the A. Pappano concert the other night when Jan Lisiecki was performing. Perhaps the prommers sense when some conductors will not tolerate it?

[vinteuil]

... o for heaven's sake let them clap if they want to - it used to be standard practice - why have people become so huffy about this?

[Petrushka]

... o for heaven's sake let them clap if they want to - it used to be standard practice - why have people become so huffy about this?

Having been hugely intolerant of the practise in the past I now feel that it doesn't greatly matter. There will be inter-movement noise anyway so what does it matter whether it's applause or a mass clearing of throats?

So far as I know, there has been little inter-movement applause this year and coughers have been remarkably silent too.

[marvin]

... o for heaven's sake let them clap if they want to - it used to be standard practice - why have people become so huffy about this?

Well that lackadaisical attitude relects all that is wrong with today's societal behaviour doesn't it? Just give in to them and what next? No you can bet your bottom dollar that it wouldn't happen if the VPO or BPO were in attendance. The prommers just make their own silly rules and sod everyone else.

[Black Swan]

Well that lackadaisical attitude relects all that is wrong with today's societal behaviour doesn't it? Just give in to them and what next? No you can bet your bottom dollar that it wouldn't happen if the VPO or BPO were in attendance. The prommers just make their own silly rules and sod everyone else.

Marvin, sadly this is true. I recently attended the York Early Music Festival and in one performance there was clapping between movements. I guess such is life. I'm sure the young musicians will long remember performing in the Royal Albert Hall with Joshua Bell more than the clapping. We are lucky the BBC is streaming Hash Tags for Twitter or Texting numbers over the orchestra....

[Nick Armstrong]

didn't a lad don a cowboy hat and play the banjo ? - I'm not making that up am I ?

I was wondering... but he popped up on the 'Proms Extra' programme last night - 'Plenty of Nutt'n' from Porgy