Prom 8 - 17.07.13: Britten, Lutosławski & Thomas Adès

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  • Eine Alpensinfonie
    Host
    • Nov 2010
    • 20576

    Prom 8 - 17.07.13: Britten, Lutosławski & Thomas Adès

    7.30pm – c. 9.55pm
    Royal Albert Hall

    Britten
    Sinfonia da Requiem (20 mins)
    Lutosławski
    Concerto for Cello (24 mins)
    INTERVAL
    Thomas Adès
    Totentanz (c45 mins)
    World Premiere

    Paul Watkins cello
    Christianne Stotijn mezzo-soprano
    Simon Keenlyside baritone
    BBC Symphony Orchestra
    Thomas Adès conductor

    Britten's Sinfonia da Requiem opens a programme of testimony and remembrance. Former BBC SO Principal Cellist Paul Watkins is the soloist in Lutosławski's bleak and beautiful Cello Concerto, composed for and dedicated to Mstislav Rostropovich in a period of violent protest and political repression in Poland.

    Thomas Adès conducts the BBC Symphony Orchestra and soloists Christianne Stotijn and Simon Keenlyside in the world premiere of his Totentanz, a commission in memory of Lutosławski, which sets an anonymous 15th-century text that accompanied a frieze destroyed when Lübeck's Marienkirche was bombed in the Second World War.
    Last edited by Eine Alpensinfonie; 11-07-13, 11:06.
  • Eine Alpensinfonie
    Host
    • Nov 2010
    • 20576

    #2
    Surely one of the most exciting Proms of the season?

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    • Roehre

      #3
      Originally posted by Eine Alpensinfonie View Post
      Surely one of the most exciting Proms of the season?
      for me certainly

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      • french frank
        Administrator/Moderator
        • Feb 2007
        • 30534

        #4
        The Adès is a pretty hefty work. I wonder if the Totentanz referred to is the Bernt Notke, illustrated in Wiki. Not a suitable format for reproduction here ...
        It isn't given us to know those rare moments when people are wide open and the lightest touch can wither or heal. A moment too late and we can never reach them any more in this world.

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        • BBMmk2
          Late Member
          • Nov 2010
          • 20908

          #5
          I love the Lutoslaski CC, here. I had the LP of it, c/w the Henri Duttleaux.
          Don’t cry for me
          I go where music was born

          J S Bach 1685-1750

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          • ucanseetheend
            Full Member
            • Dec 2010
            • 298

            #6
            so a piece about a Mural destroyed in the second world war in Lubeck by a British Composer at the BRITISH Proms, Hmmm. Is it a political statement? Not another anti " Bombing of Germany" in 1945 I hope.
            "Perfection is not attainable,but if we chase perfection we can catch excellence"

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            • LaurieWatt
              Full Member
              • Nov 2010
              • 205

              #7
              Originally posted by Eine Alpensinfonie View Post
              Surely one of the most exciting Proms of the season?
              I agree that it could be but the broadcast of the Sinfonia da Requiem, so far, is so poorly balanced even on the Internet radio, and, more importantly, the performance so perfunctory and dull that I have turned it off already.... No doubt someone will say if it improves!

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              • edashtav
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                • Jul 2012
                • 3672

                #8
                Ades Sleep-Walks Through the start of Britten

                Originally posted by LaurieWatt View Post
                I agree that it could be but the broadcast of the Sinfonia da Requiem, so far, is so poorly balanced even on the Internet radio, and, more importantly, the performance so perfunctory and dull that I have turned it off already.... No doubt someone will say if it improves!
                If it did, I didn't experience the improvement. Like you, Laurie , I switched off after a ponderous, under-powered, weakly characterised first movement.

                Once I've recharged, I'll listen again to the new Ades piece for I admire his work greatly.
                Last edited by edashtav; 20-07-13, 13:34. Reason: comatose use of the comma

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                • edashtav
                  Full Member
                  • Jul 2012
                  • 3672

                  #9
                  Thomas Ades and the Waltons

                  Totentanz (2013) by Thomas Ades (PROM 8) is everything that Tanzsuite by Lachenmann (PROM 5) isn’t: replete with whole dances, fully embracing / buried in the past, & tricked out with tunes. It’s a work of deep, British conservatism. Oh deary me: has Thomas got a severe touch of the “Waltons”? Is the fibre of his youthful iconoclasm under attack? Am I being absurd when I find this extended piece no more significant than Suppe? I can conceive of a programme that starts with “Poet & Peasant”, and the Ades follows – neatly retitled “Pope & Peasant”. Just to show what may be achieved by wit & concision within a backward-looking idiom, the second half starts with Saint-Saens Danse Macabre then the concert reaches its rebarbative nadir in Liszt’s Totentanz for piano and orchestra.

                  The Ades is immediately attractive – full of lurid fun, etched in primary colours & with all its points rammed home by shed-loads, sorry pantechnicons, of percussion. But… is it a “sell-out”?

                  Yes, I may seen relaxing with a Scotch and one of Jimmy Mac’s pieces, but I’d rather be stretched by Herr Lachenmann – whom I failed to comprehend on Monday. I was tempted to attend the RAH last evening but I’m glad that I stayed at home. Had I enjoyed myself by now I’d be wracked with guilt. How mediaeval!
                  Last edited by edashtav; 20-07-13, 13:35. Reason: Insensitive criticism

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                  • Eine Alpensinfonie
                    Host
                    • Nov 2010
                    • 20576

                    #10
                    This is discouraging. I didn't hear this concert, even though it was a "must hear". But I did record it, so I hope the naysayers are not too accurate.

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                    • DracoM
                      Host
                      • Mar 2007
                      • 12995

                      #11
                      What on earth Ades was doing with the Britten, I simply do not begin to understand. It was comatose.
                      Lutoslawski exciting and Mr Watkins gave it all he had.
                      BUT
                      For me, the Ades was just pretty tedious, miles too long and over-blown. The fashion for engine sheds of percussion goes on, but is so 1990's. Nice singing particularly by Finley, but.......so what?
                      Please explain to me, because I really, really do not get why this composer is so rapturously feted, as if there was some kind of lobbying claque behind him.

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                      • BBMmk2
                        Late Member
                        • Nov 2010
                        • 20908

                        #12
                        What ba pity, about this prom Perhaps I may give it a listen, as I was out last night.
                        Don’t cry for me
                        I go where music was born

                        J S Bach 1685-1750

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                        • Bryn
                          Banned
                          • Mar 2007
                          • 24688

                          #13
                          Originally posted by DracoM View Post
                          What on earth Ades was doing with the Britten, I simply do not begin to understand. It was comatose.
                          Lutoslawski exciting and Mr Watkins gave it all he had.
                          BUT
                          For me, the Ades was just pretty tedious, miles too long and over-blown. The fashion for engine sheds of percussion goes on, but is so 1990's. Nice singing particularly by Finley, but.......so what?
                          Please explain to me, because I really, really do not get why this composer is so rapturously feted, as if there was some kind of lobbying claque behind him.
                          Beats me too. Damn it, I am told he even gets others to do a fair bit of the composing for some of 'his' output. Who does he think he is? Stockhausen writing Carré? A fair old piano accompanist though.

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                          • Serial_Apologist
                            Full Member
                            • Dec 2010
                            • 37886

                            #14
                            Originally posted by Bryn View Post
                            Who does he think he is?
                            A shark or more probably a sheep preserved in formaldehyde?

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                            • Tevot
                              Full Member
                              • Nov 2010
                              • 1011

                              #15
                              Hello there,

                              This is curious...

                              Andrew Clements appears to have been at an entirely different concert :-) !!

                              Here's the link...

                              The performance was wonderfully compelling, with the BBCSO revelling in the virtuoso challenges Adès sets them, and the soloists giving their roles an almost operatic vividness, writes Andrew Clements


                              I haven't heard the Prom yet but hope to soon - especially given the varied responses to it posted here.

                              Best Wishes,

                              Tevot

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