Prom 4 - 14.07.13: Les Siècles – The Rite of Spring

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  • Eine Alpensinfonie
    Host
    • Nov 2010
    • 20586

    Prom 4 - 14.07.13: Les Siècles – The Rite of Spring

    7.30pm – c. 9.45pm
    Royal Albert Hall

    Lully
    Le bourgeois gentilhomme (11 mins)
    – overture and dances
    Rameau
    Les Indes galantes (16 mins)
    – dances
    Délibes
    Coppélia (15 mins)
    – excerpts
    Massenet
    Le Cid (13 mins)
    – ballet music (excerpts)
    INTERVAL
    Stravinsky
    The Rite of Spring (35 mins)

    Les Siècles
    François-Xavier Roth conductor

    An evening of riot and revolution in dance music from the court of Louis XIV to the Ballets Russes. Francois-Xavier Roth directs Les Siècles in the first period-instrument performance at the Proms of Stravinsky's The Rite of Spring, marking the work's centenary. Scenes from ballets by Lully, Rameau, Delibes and Massenet provide more than two centuries of historical context for the work that scandalised musical Paris at its premiere in 1913.
    Last edited by Eine Alpensinfonie; 09-07-13, 05:38.
  • Eine Alpensinfonie
    Host
    • Nov 2010
    • 20586

    #2
    Variety, yes. But excerpts?

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    • french frank
      Administrator/Moderator
      • Feb 2007
      • 30806

      #3
      Administrative bump!
      It isn't given us to know those rare moments when people are wide open and the lightest touch can wither or heal. A moment too late and we can never reach them any more in this world.

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      • Il Grande Inquisitor
        Full Member
        • Mar 2007
        • 961

        #4
        I'm very excited about this Prom and doubt I'll be the only Forum member in attendance. I've admired Les Siècles and François-Xavier Rothon disc for some time and the chance to see them perform Le sacre on period instruments is something I had to see/hear. Their Firebird recording is exceptionally fine.
        Our chief weapon is surprise...surprise and fear...fear and surprise.... Our two weapons are fear and surprise...and ruthless efficiency....

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        • Nick Armstrong
          Host
          • Nov 2010
          • 26628

          #5
          Originally posted by Il Grande Inquisitor View Post
          I doubt I'll be the only Forum member in attendance.
          Your doubt is well-founded!
          "...the isle is full of noises,
          Sounds and sweet airs, that give delight and hurt not.
          Sometimes a thousand twangling instruments
          Will hum about mine ears, and sometime voices..."

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          • jayne lee wilson
            Banned
            • Jul 2011
            • 10711

            #6
            I love the French Baroque, Rameau especially, and Les Siecles (thrilled with their Liszt Dante Symphony in the vast apocalyptic reverberance of Caen Cathedral!)
            ...and having got to the interval, might this be the moment for....?! I can't even recall how long it's been since...

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            • Eine Alpensinfonie
              Host
              • Nov 2010
              • 20586

              #7
              But why must Part 1 (or Episode 1 ) be like Breakfast or Classic FM? with snippets only?

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              • Petrushka
                Full Member
                • Nov 2010
                • 12436

                #8
                Originally posted by Eine Alpensinfonie View Post
                But why must Part 1 (or Episode 1 ) be like Breakfast or Classic FM? with snippets only?
                This is poor programming and the Prom fell at the first hurdle in the Attendance Stakes. Didn't want to spend money on train fares, hotels etc just for 35 minutes so one for R3.
                "The sound is the handwriting of the conductor" - Bernard Haitink

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                • bluestateprommer
                  Full Member
                  • Nov 2010
                  • 3035

                  #9
                  Originally posted by Eine Alpensinfonie View Post
                  But why must Part 1 (or Episode 1 ) be like Breakfast or Classic FM? with snippets only?
                  Perhaps it's because the orchestra and conductor themselves chose the whole program, without pressure from anyone at The Proms' management. I offer evidence from Les Siècles' website:



                  "FOUR CENTURIES OF BALLETS
                  Wednesday 10 July 2013, 08:00 pm
                  Centre des Congrès de REIMS, Les Flâneries Musicales

                  LULLY, excerpts of Le Bourgeois Gentilhomme
                  RAMEAU, excerpts of Les Indes galantes
                  DELIBES, excerpts of Coppelia
                  MASSENET, excerpts of Le Cid
                  STRAVINSKY, The Rite of Spring

                  FOUR CENTURIES OF BALLETS
                  Thursday 11 July 2013, 09:00 pm
                  PERPIGNAN, Palais des Rois de Majorque

                  LULLY, excerpts of Le Bourgeois Gentilhomme
                  RAMEAU, excerpts of Les Indes galantes
                  DELIBES, excerpts of Coppelia
                  MASSENET, Le Cid

                  FOUR CENTURIES OF BALLETS
                  Friday 12 July 2013, 08:00 pm
                  MONTPELLIER, Opéra Berlioz / Le Corum, Festival de Radio France

                  LULLY, excerpts of Le Bourgeois Gentilhomme
                  RAMEAU, excerpts of Les Indes galantes
                  DELIBES, excerpts of Coppelia
                  MASSENET, excerpts of Le Cid
                  STRAVINSKY, The Rite of Spring"
                  And, of course, Les Siècles then treks across the Channel:

                  "FOUR CENTURIES OF BALLETS
                  Saturday 14 July 2013, 07:30 pm
                  PROMS of LONDON, Royal Albert Hall

                  LULLY, excerpts of Le Bourgeois Gentilhomme
                  RAMEAU, excerpts of Les Indes galantes
                  DELIBES, excerpts of Coppelia
                  MASSENET, excerpts of Le Cid
                  STRAVINSKY, The Rite of Spring"
                  Or in French (but of course): http://www.lessiecles.com/saison/

                  "QUATRE SIECLES DE BALLETS
                  Dimanche 14 juillet 2013, 19h30
                  PROMS de LONDRES, Royal Albert Hall

                  LULLY, extraits du Bourgeois Gentilhomme
                  RAMEAU, extraits des Indes galantes
                  DELIBES, extraits de Coppélia
                  MASSENET, extraits du Cid
                  STRAVINSKY, Le Sacre du Printemps"
                  In other words, Les Siècles were already touring with their own program anyway, and it slotted into The Proms' programming nicely. I can't possibly be the only person here who thought of this possibility.....

                  BTW, some might be amused at Les Siècles' program on Wednesday the 17th, back in France:

                  "ELGAR / DELIBES / MASSENET
                  Mercredi 17 juillet 2013, 20h30
                  Abbatiale de SAINT-RIQUIER, Festival de Saint-Riquier

                  DELIBES, extraits de Coppélia
                  ELGAR, Concerto pour violoncelle - Anthony LEROY, violoncelle
                  MASSENET, extraits du Cid
                  ELGAR, Pomp and Circumstance"

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                  • Nick Armstrong
                    Host
                    • Nov 2010
                    • 26628

                    #10
                    Originally posted by Eine Alpensinfonie View Post
                    But why must Part 1 (or Episode 1 ) be like Breakfast or Classic FM? with snippets only?
                    It remains to be seen if the juxtaposition / "theme" works on the night.

                    And to be fair, "Les Indes Galantes" (for example) is an opera-ballet lasting 3 hours - and they have taken the ballet music from it. It's not really just random 'extraits' / snippets...
                    "...the isle is full of noises,
                    Sounds and sweet airs, that give delight and hurt not.
                    Sometimes a thousand twangling instruments
                    Will hum about mine ears, and sometime voices..."

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                    • makropulos
                      Full Member
                      • Nov 2010
                      • 1688

                      #11
                      Bluestateprommer:
                      Indeed you're not the only one who thought it might be Les Siècles' own programme - but thanks for the links and especially the info about the Elgar concert. Hopefully your links will defuse some of the attacks on this terrific programme (which doesn't strike me as Classic FM in the least - not only is it cleverly designed - but when was the last time Le Cid was played on CFM?...). I'm very excited about this imaginative concert (and the objectors can, of course, choose not to listen if they so choose). Delighted, too, that it's on telly next weekend (21 July, 19:30).

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                      • BBMmk2
                        Late Member
                        • Nov 2010
                        • 20908

                        #12
                        I'm actually looking forward to this p[rom. Such a mixture and a good programme too.
                        Don’t cry for me
                        I go where music was born

                        J S Bach 1685-1750

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                        • mangerton
                          Full Member
                          • Nov 2010
                          • 3346

                          #13
                          I'm looking forward to this too, but as Petrushka points out, it does seem rather a thin programme. According to the timings above, there are about 90 minutes of music. Even allowing for an interval, how can this be spun out to ending at "c 9.45"? Is that not misrepresentation? Or will there be lots of encores?

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                          • ferneyhoughgeliebte
                            Gone fishin'
                            • Sep 2011
                            • 30163

                            #14
                            Originally posted by mangerton View Post
                            Or will there be lots of encores?
                            As there are "lots of encores" in Part One, perhaps they'll play Jeux after le Sacre?
                            [FONT=Comic Sans MS][I][B]Numquam Satis![/B][/I][/FONT]

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                            • Nick Armstrong
                              Host
                              • Nov 2010
                              • 26628

                              #15
                              Originally posted by mangerton View Post
                              will there be lots of encores?
                              Hope so; will let you know on returning from the Hall

                              They're bringing so many instruments for the various 'siècles' involved, hope they use them to the full.
                              "...the isle is full of noises,
                              Sounds and sweet airs, that give delight and hurt not.
                              Sometimes a thousand twangling instruments
                              Will hum about mine ears, and sometime voices..."

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