"What is the BBC Proms?"

Collapse
X
 
  • Filter
  • Time
  • Show
Clear All
new posts
  • VodkaDilc
    • Jan 2025

    "What is the BBC Proms?"

    Last night's Prom programme had a section aimed at making concert-going more approachable to children. All very commendable. But was I being over-pedantic in reacting with horror to the title "What is the BBC Proms?" heading one of the pages? Surely this is a grammatical outrage!
  • ferneyhoughgeliebte
    Gone fishin'
    • Sep 2011
    • 30163

    #2
    "They is a series of concerts, innit"? "They are a Music Festival"?

    Tricky - but I know what you mean, Voddy: I was always mildly irritated by the title of Shirley Williams' book Politics is for People.
    [FONT=Comic Sans MS][I][B]Numquam Satis![/B][/I][/FONT]

    Comment

    • french frank
      Administrator/Moderator
      • Feb 2007
      • 30534

      #3
      A word with a plural form (final 's') being considered as a single entity. It is referring the idea of the Proms, not the concerts individually but as a whole.
      It isn't given us to know those rare moments when people are wide open and the lightest touch can wither or heal. A moment too late and we can never reach them any more in this world.

      Comment

      • salymap
        Late member
        • Nov 2010
        • 5969

        #4
        They is a series of Concerts started by an old geezer called 'Sir 'enry Wood' and according to the BBC held in a multi [look it up] coloured exploding honey pot. See your TV for proof of this.

        Comment

        • ferneyhoughgeliebte
          Gone fishin'
          • Sep 2011
          • 30163

          #5
          Originally posted by french frank View Post
          A word with a plural form (final 's') being considered as a single entity. It is referring the idea of the Proms, not the concerts individually but as a whole.
          Yes. But it still sounds "sticky", doesn't they?
          [FONT=Comic Sans MS][I][B]Numquam Satis![/B][/I][/FONT]

          Comment

          • doversoul1
            Ex Member
            • Dec 2010
            • 7132

            #6
            Originally posted by ferneyhoughgeliebte View Post
            Yes. But it still sounds "sticky", doesn't they?
            I suppose it has become a CONCEPT like a lot of other trendy events and ….concepts.

            Comment

            • Serial_Apologist
              Full Member
              • Dec 2010
              • 37882

              #7
              Originally posted by doversoul View Post
              I suppose it has become a CONCEPT like a lot of other trendy events and ….concepts.
              Everything's a concept...

              Comment

              • french frank
                Administrator/Moderator
                • Feb 2007
                • 30534

                #8
                Originally posted by ferneyhoughgeliebte View Post
                Yes. But it still sounds "sticky", doesn't they?
                Yes - I wouldn't say it! I'd say 'the Proms are'.
                It isn't given us to know those rare moments when people are wide open and the lightest touch can wither or heal. A moment too late and we can never reach them any more in this world.

                Comment

                • VodkaDilc

                  #9
                  Originally posted by ferneyhoughgeliebte View Post
                  "They is a series of concerts, innit"? "They are a Music Festival"?

                  Tricky - but I know what you mean, Voddy: I was always mildly irritated by the title of Shirley Williams' book Politics is for People.
                  Whatever theoretical reasons are put forward, the title in last night's programme just sounds wrong. To my mind, the ear is a better judge than the grammar book.

                  I would say "What are the BBC Proms?" In fact I would probably say "What are the Henry Wood Proms?"

                  Comment

                  • Petrushka
                    Full Member
                    • Nov 2010
                    • 12342

                    #10
                    Originally posted by VodkaDilc View Post
                    Whatever theoretical reasons are put forward, the title in last night's programme just sounds wrong. To my mind, the ear is a better judge than the grammar book.

                    I would say "What are the BBC Proms?" In fact I would probably say "What are the Henry Wood Proms?"
                    Or why not, simply, 'What are the Proms?' Even I could explain that to a curious 10 year old.
                    "The sound is the handwriting of the conductor" - Bernard Haitink

                    Comment

                    • VodkaDilc

                      #11
                      Originally posted by Petrushka View Post
                      Or why not, simply, 'What are the Proms?' Even I could explain that to a curious 10 year old.
                      .....as long as the word's not hijacked for school leaving parties.

                      Comment

                      • Petrushka
                        Full Member
                        • Nov 2010
                        • 12342

                        #12
                        Originally posted by VodkaDilc View Post
                        .....as long as the word's not hijacked for school leaving parties.
                        Oh dear, yes, forgotten about that. My 16 year old niece has just had that variety but understands (I think) where I have been going for the past two months.
                        "The sound is the handwriting of the conductor" - Bernard Haitink

                        Comment

                        • mercia
                          Full Member
                          • Nov 2010
                          • 8920

                          #13
                          What is The Ashes? Who is The Sixteen?

                          Comment

                          • amateur51

                            #14
                            Originally posted by Serial_Apologist View Post
                            Everything's a concept...
                            Wasn't the old slogan "Condoms should be used on every conceivable occasion?"

                            Comment

                            • amateur51

                              #15
                              Originally posted by mercia View Post
                              What is The Ashes? Who is The Sixteen?
                              Who is The Archers?

                              Comment

                              Working...
                              X