Beethoven 7 - Oh that dreadful applause between movements!

[Eine Alpensinfonie]

A lot of people are with him. And more would be if classical music was more inviting.

I've said before that the human race appears to be descended from sheep rather than apes.

[KipperKid]

I've said before that the human race appears to be descended from sheep rather than apes.

God created man. I've seen the photograph. Maybe it was a painting. Same thing really.

[Petrushka]

God created man. I've seen the photograph. Maybe it was a painting. Same thing really.

God is alive and well and working on a less ambitious project -graffiti seen on a wall in 1980s

[KipperKid]

God is alive and well and working on a less ambitious project -graffiti seen on a wall in 1980s

Graffito, surely?

[teamsaint]

Graffito, surely?

surelo.

[Petrushka]

Graffito, surely?

Probably.

[Ferretfancy]

Probably.

"I hate graffiti"

" I hate all Italian food "

[KipperKid]

"I hate graffiti"

" I hate all Italian food "

Even paella?

[Bryn]

I've said before that the human race appears to be descended from sheep rather than apes.

There seem to be a good few sheep here following the relatively new tradition of waiting 'till all movements of a multi-movement work are over before they put their hands together, that's for sure.

[cloughie]

There seem to be a good few sheep here following the relatively new tradition of waiting 'till all movements of a multi-movement work are over before they put their hands together, that's for sure.

...and may they safely graze without inter-movement interruption!

[Bryn]

...and may they safely graze without inter-movement interruption!

Ah, so no retuning, additional performers taking their places, no clearing of throats, etc.

[cloughie]

Ah, so no returning, additional performers taking their places, no clearing of throats, etc.

Baa

[bluestateprommer]

If some members of the audience are unaware of the so-called "etiquette" of concert attendance, it is very likely because the Proms are doing their job in attracting first-time listeners to "classical" music.

We music lovers are all aware of the need to increase our following by any means that brings success.

HS

In all the hubbub about the inter-movement applause in the Beethoven at the recent BBC Phil concert, it seems that all the discussion is occurring in more than a bit of a vacuum, at least to me. This is because the focus is so much on the first part of the concert, with the Beethoven, that the second part of the concert is being ignored as a stealth factor here. I refer to the presence of the Antonio Marquez Dance Company on the second half of the program, since they were part of the proceedings that evening, after all. pilamenon had commented in the main concert thread on this particular Prom that "it was a very young crowd in the arena". This, along with HS's allusion above, leads me to speculate on the nature of the particular "happy clappers" on this occasion, which I'll repeat here in mildly altered form to add to the mix.

Based on pilamenon's comment, my admittedly off-the-wall guess is that a goodly number of the young crowd in the Arena, and perhaps in the rest of the RAH, were there with the Marquez troupe as the main attraction for them, rather than the Beethoven or any single piece of music in the program. In other words, this Prom may potentially have drawn on a new crowd, the dance crowd, beyond the "traditional classical music crowd". This would presumably be a crowd that's not used to hearing multi-movement classical works in isolation, as unified entities to be heard uninterrupted until the end. I will grant that there's a counter-argument that the "happy clappers" have shown up at other Proms that don't have a dance troupe attached to them, true. But I think that the Marquez company "demographic" showing up here where they would not have shown up otherwise is a factor that needs to be considered. Just sayin'.

For the record, I don't like inter-movement applause as a general rule either, as it does indeed break the concentration. But this can indeed be controlled either by an announcement at the start, as with the recent PCM with the Huelgas Ensemble c/o Petroc, or a gesture from the conductor, as I've seen done on several occasions.

[Flosshilde]

Anybody spotted this happening yet? With the revival of interest in knitting it can only be a matter of time

http://archives.nyphil.org/index.php/artifact/6a842918-af1c-4563-aaab-e82cb8d22d18/fullview#page/30/mode/2up

[ferneyhoughgeliebte]

Anybody spotted this happening yet? With the revival of interest in knitting it can only be a matter of time

http://archives.nyphil.org/index.php...ge/30/mode/2up

All them crochets and quavers.