Beethoven 7 - Oh that dreadful applause between movements!

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  • KipperKid

    Originally posted by pastoralguy View Post
    Yes, but I have half a bottle of Glenfiddich sloshing around inside me so I suggest you don't take my spelling too seriously. As Churchill said when approached by a woman who complained he was drunk, he replied "and you're ugly, Madam. However, in the morning I'll be sober..."
    The best Churchill put-down is the poisoned coffee one. Know it?

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    • cloughie
      Full Member
      • Dec 2011
      • 22215

      Originally posted by KipperKid View Post
      My spelling and grammer is know better, I was just asking four clarity. Pastoral could of answered.
      OK I'll applaud between postings!

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      • KipperKid

        Originally posted by cloughie View Post
        OK I'll applaud between postings!
        I think we should applaud Pastoral on not drinking the second part of that bottle of whiskey.

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        • cloughie
          Full Member
          • Dec 2011
          • 22215

          Originally posted by KipperKid View Post
          I think we should applaud Pastoral on not drinking the second part of that bottle of whiskey.
          Maybe I'm being a pessimist but maybe he started with a half-empty bottle!

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          • pastoralguy
            Full Member
            • Nov 2010
            • 7823

            Originally posted by KipperKid View Post
            I think we should applaud Pastoral on not drinking the second part of that bottle of whiskey.
            Loo Tate...

            Oh, it's whisky...

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            • KipperKid

              Originally posted by pastoralguy View Post
              Loo Tate...

              Oh, it's whisky...
              The Irish spelling was deliberate

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              • cloughie
                Full Member
                • Dec 2011
                • 22215

                Originally posted by pastoralguy View Post
                Loo Tate...

                Oh, it's whisky...
                ...and that's not a flute!

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                • KipperKid

                  Originally posted by cloughie View Post
                  Maybe I'm being a pessimist but maybe he started with a half-empty bottle!
                  L

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                  • pastoralguy
                    Full Member
                    • Nov 2010
                    • 7823

                    Off to bed, guys. Good night and sleep well.

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                    • Bryn
                      Banned
                      • Mar 2007
                      • 24688

                      Hmm, looks like I had better dig out the 10 year Bushmills.

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                      • french frank
                        Administrator/Moderator
                        • Feb 2007
                        • 30533

                        Originally posted by Bryn View Post
                        How about the use of the description "inane" in the OP and several other messages here, for starters?
                        Yes, I'll accept that . Perhaps 'insensitive'? Meanwhile, I resisted the temptation to respond to the comment on the concert thread that one poster found the Beethoven 'a rather heavy-handed performance' ...
                        It isn't given us to know those rare moments when people are wide open and the lightest touch can wither or heal. A moment too late and we can never reach them any more in this world.

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                        • Eine Alpensinfonie
                          Host
                          • Nov 2010
                          • 20576

                          Originally posted by KipperKid View Post
                          I'm for clapping at the end of each movement. I also think that those who make the rules should allow us to applaud at the end of a well executed passage or difficult solo. It doesn't spoil jazz concerts...
                          Yes it does. It takes away from the music and becomes admiration for the performer instead.

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                          • KipperKid

                            Originally posted by Eine Alpensinfonie View Post
                            Yes it does. It takes away from the music and becomes admiration for the performer instead.
                            So why do jazz audiences go in for it? Maybe they don't agree with you.

                            In any case, it is only a mild distraction, for a moment.

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                            • french frank
                              Administrator/Moderator
                              • Feb 2007
                              • 30533

                              Originally posted by KipperKid View Post
                              So why do jazz audiences go in for it? Maybe they don't agree with you.
                              I suppose one could ask the jazz enthusiasts who also attend classical concerts whether they behave in exactly the same way at both?

                              I think johnb's example of the guitar recital where the audience took their cue from the performer's body language is very interesting. It shows that people are very often uncertain what to do - and it seems that most commonly it is a small minority applauding routinely because the music has stopped, rather than a genuine display of enthusiam.
                              It isn't given us to know those rare moments when people are wide open and the lightest touch can wither or heal. A moment too late and we can never reach them any more in this world.

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                              • Bryn
                                Banned
                                • Mar 2007
                                • 24688

                                As things (and Prommers, of course) stand, I think it is bound to be only a minority who, for whatever reason, go against the modern convention of waiting until the end (or perhaps just a little before it) to applaud. I don't think one can validly interpret the rationale of inter-movement applause from the proportion of an audience engaging in it. Some may be uncertain, some wanting to re-introduce an earlier convention, and others may have read similar threads to this one an think "stick this in your pipe". I suspect that most are simply joining in, and that the originators are showing spontaneous approbation.

                                Slightly OT, I recall a broadcast performance of Messiaen's Et exspecto resurrectionem mortuorum from the Proms, which featured a clearly audible cloudburst battering down on the roof of the RAH. I was listening via a ghetto-blaster I had hauled up to a triangulation point above the Devon hamlet I was staying in at the time. I found the sound of the downpour quite evocative of the composer's stated aim that the work be performed in the open air, and maybe from mountain tops. Indeed, an enhancement rather than a distraction. I did record it at the time, but the cassette is long lost.

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