Beethoven 7 - Oh that dreadful applause between movements!

[Vile Consort]

You still get it at the opera but at the price of having to endure intolerable productions, unless you listen with your eyes closed.

I did once go to an organ recital at Bath Abbey where we were treated beforehand to half an hour of a well-known British organist playing scales and arpeggios on an out of tune piano in the vestry (is there any other sort?)

[kernelbogey]

Of all symphonies, and of all days of the week - no applause after I and II in LvB 5 tonight. I wonder why?

[johnb]

I did once go to an organ recital at Bath Abbey where we were treated beforehand to half an hour of a well-known British organist playing scales and arpeggios on an out of tune piano in the vestry (is there any other sort?)

That reminds me, I too once went to an organ recital in Bath Abbey - Jenifer Bate playing Messiaen's Livre du Saint Sacrament (a monumental work lasting around 100 minutes. The then Dean had banned all applause in the Abbey so, at the end of the performance, the audience mimed clapping with their hands raised so they would be visible to Jenifer Bate.

[Petrushka]

Of all symphonies, and of all days of the week - no applause after I and II in LvB 5 tonight. I wonder why?

Yes, this crossed my mind as well. I mean, Saturday night and Beethoven 5 and no inter-movement applause? Perhaps someone in the hall can let us know if Runnicles did something to achieve this. Bearing this in mind the whole question of inter-movement applause at the Proms becomes ever more bizarre. I wonder if it is down to one particular individual who may have been absent tonight.

Most odd.

[cloughie]

Of all symphonies, and of all days of the week - no applause after I and II in LvB 5 tonight. I wonder why?

Conductor power!!!!!!

[french frank]

That reminds me, I too once went to an organ recital in Bath Abbey - Jenifer Bate playing Messiaen's Livre du Saint Sacrament (a monumental work lasting around 100 minutes. The then Dean had banned all applause in the Abbey so, at the end of the performance, the audience mimed clapping with their hands raised so they would be visible to Jenifer Bate.

Anarchy rules!

[VodkaDilc]

That reminds me, I too once went to an organ recital in Bath Abbey - Jenifer Bate playing Messiaen's Livre du Saint Sacrament (a monumental work lasting around 100 minutes. The then Dean had banned all applause in the Abbey so, at the end of the performance, the audience mimed clapping with their hands raised so they would be visible to Jenifer Bate.

How long ago was that? I thought any suggestion about applause not being appropriate in church went out decades ago. I remember one delightful South London vicar of a musical church always saying that God likes people to enjoy coming to his house and that means being free to express that enjoyment. (This was around 1970.)

[Ferretfancy]

How long ago was that? I thought any suggestion about applause not being appropriate in church went out decades ago. I remember one delightful South London vicar of a musical church always saying that God likes people to enjoy coming to his house and that means being free to express that enjoyment. (This was around 1970.)

That reminds me of Alan Bennett ( ? ) as a trendy vicar - "Let's get delinquency off the streets and into the churches where it belongs ! "

[johnb]

How long ago was that? I thought any suggestion about applause not being appropriate in church went out decades ago. I remember one delightful South London vicar of a musical church always saying that God likes people to enjoy coming to his house and that means being free to express that enjoyment. (This was around 1970.)

I must have been circa 1986 - a long time ago, but it was very memorable. Incidentally a shortly afterwards I went to a concert in Wells Cathedral and the Dean or the Bishop (I forget which) welcomed everyone and (rather pointedly) asked people to applaud freely,

(It was a very memorable year because the Bath Festival was 'doing' Messiaen, with Oli and Yvonne, Boulez, Peter Hill, George Benjamin, Nash Ens, Jenifer Bate, Simon Rattle etc performing Turangalila, Vingt Regard (Yvonne Loriod), Quatuor pour la fin du temps, Visions de l'Amen, etc, etc. These days the Bath Festival is a hotch potch of world music with some jazz and the odd classical recital thrown in as a gesture.)

[MrGongGong]

Anarchy rules!

Surely that should be

Anarchy, No Rules ?

[KipperKid]

In the concert performances of Walton Symphony #1 and Sibelius' Violin Concerto, applause always occurred after the 1st movement.

20 years later, attending performances of both pieces, I was surprised to find that this is no longer the case.

[jean]

I think salymap has a good point - in my experience it does not appear to happen anywhere but the Proms...

It happens in all sorts of places. And mostly it does feel tepid and uncertain, as some posters have pointed out - anything but a spontaneous outburst of uncontrollable enthusiasm.

It's begun to happen between mass movements in concert performances. People hear the Amen after the Gloria, and that's it for the rest of the Mass.

[Hornspieler]

It happens in all sorts of places. And mostly it does feel tepid and uncertain, as some posters have pointed out - anything but a spontaneous outburst of uncontrollable enthusiasm.

It's begun to happen between mass movements in concert performances. People hear the Amen after the Gloria, and that's it for the rest of the Mass.

Food for the Masses?

'mornin' all

HS

[amateur51]

That reminds me, I too once went to an organ recital in Bath Abbey - Jenifer Bate playing Messiaen's Livre du Saint Sacrament (a monumental work lasting around 100 minutes. The then Dean had banned all applause in the Abbey so, at the end of the performance, the audience mimed clapping with their hands raised so they would be visible to Jenifer Bate.

Great story, johnb - fair made my morning

[Zucchini]

...in my experience it does not appear to happen anywhere but the Proms...

Surely the Proms 'Festival' is a London attraction just like Trafalgar Square and the London Eye. Thre are bound to be many first-timers and many who will never come again. As far as I'm concerned, I hope people have an enjoyable evening and miseries keep away and do themselves a favour by turing off the TV and/or radio. Am51 has said somewhere that we should just reopen last year's thread - there's nothing new to say and it's a pointless 'discussion'..