Beethoven 7 - Oh that dreadful applause between movements!

[Karafan]

Audiences should never applaud before the performer has earned that applause.

I don't tend to think that walking onto a stage qualifies as earning applause, in most cases.

Whitney would have understood....

Bill Bailey: I was at a Whitney Houston gig, it was supposed to start at three, finally at four o'clock she comes on stage and says "I just wanna say, I love each and every one of you" and this big black guy next to me shouts "Sing Bitch!"

[Tony Halstead]

Audiences should never applaud before the performer has earned that applause.

I don't tend to think that walking onto a stage qualifies as earning applause, in most cases.

Whitney would have understood....

Bill Bailey: I was at a Whitney Houston gig, it was supposed to start at three, finally at four o'clock she comes on stage and says "I just wanna say, I love each and every one of you" and this big black guy next to me shouts "Sing Bitch!"

"Sing Bitch" is NEITHER FUNNY NOR 'AMUSING'

[Andrew Slater]

I've only heard this at The proms. What about anywhere else?

The concert in message 132 was at the Bridgewater Hall.

[Karafan]

It's happened twice at local concerts I have attended recently. On the second occasion the visiting Polish RSO looked disconcerted, as did their conductor, by the clapping. The looks on their faces were not ones of pleasure, as some on this thread have suggested it might be, but more an expression equating to "why on earth are they clapping now?"! My thoughts precisely.

K.

[KipperKid]

"Sing Bitch" is NEITHER FUNNY NOR 'AMUSING'

Do you mean that? I only ask because you've put some emoticons in after your statement.

[Bryn]

Ridiculous!

Ridiculous indeed, (finding it insufferable and grotesque, that is).

[EnemyoftheStoat]

"Sing Bitch" is NEITHER FUNNY NOR 'AMUSING'

A kind of "you had to be there" situation.

[Sir Velo]

"Sing Bitch" is NEITHER FUNNY NOR 'AMUSING'

Normally I'd agree but in this instance it is both, since it deflates the diva's absurd pomposity.

[KipperKid]

A kind of "you had to be there" situation.

Not yet been in a situation where it's acceptable or funny to refer to a woman as a bitch. But, I accept that I wasn't there so I may be missing something.

[teamsaint]

things that are funny or acceptable in one situation are sometimes neither of those things in a different situation.

If anybody is offended by my use of the Bill Bailey quote, I apologise. I wouldn't use that term , of course.
i thought it illustrated a point. The power relationship ought to defuse the insult, I should think, but perhaps that is a misjudgement.

[KipperKid]

things that are funny or acceptable in one situation are sometimes neither of those things in a different situation.

If anybody is offended by my use of the Bill Bailey quote, I apologise. I wouldn't use that term , of course.
i thought it illustrated a point. The power relationship ought to defuse the insult, I should think, but perhaps that is a misjudgement.

Not offended at all. It is a quote from a celebrity, not your words. It had been said. An anecdote from a gig.

I was unsure of what some of the subsequent comments were getting at. Maybe a sense of humour failing on my part.

If I have upset you ts, please accept my apology.

Beef Oven

[Eine Alpensinfonie]

The Queen Elizabeth Hall, 1987, 'the Beethoven Experience' conducted by Roger Norrington ( he wasn't a 'Sir' then).
As a member of the orchestra in Beethoven's 9th I remember being acutely uncomfortable and embarrassed when Roger turned to the audience INBETWEN EACH MOVEMENT, encouraging / inviting them to applaud.
Strangely, it didn't bother me too much between the 1st movement and the scherzo, and after the scherzo.
But to hear applause after the slow movement, just before the cataclysm that starts the 4th movement, was insufferable and grotesque.

It's rather sad when a professional musician has to beg for applause.

[KipperKid]

It's rather sad when a professional musician has to beg for applause.

I may be wrong, I often am, but I don't think he was begging for applause. Maybe he was just trying to get a new kind of emotional engagement from the audience. All institutions move on; marriage, classical music etc, we have to move on too.

[Eine Alpensinfonie]

All institutions move on; marriage, classical music etc, we have to move on too.

We all do move on, but not necessarily in the direction one pushy conductor wants.

[KipperKid]

We all do move on, but not necessarily in the direction one pushy conductor wants.

A lot of people are with him. And more would be if classical music was more inviting.