The actual Proms programme 12 July - 7 September

[teamsaint]

No moshing, then?

Bruckner 8 looks the one for that !!

[Thropplenoggin]

post structuralist, I suggest, with that level of discontinuity......

I bow before your superior critical theory, sir.

[teamsaint]

I bow before your superior critical theory, sir.

bloody hell.
You ARE in a bad way. theory wise. ! Mine is partially recalled from partially understood more that quarter of a century a go. it was a bloody good module, though.

oops, off topic already. Sorry.

[Thropplenoggin]

bloody hell.
You ARE in a bad way. theory wise. ! Mine is partially recalled from partially understood more that quarter of a century a go. it was a bloody good module, though.

The pith helmet is askew, sir. Askew! Perhaps it is the news that I shall be returning to abide in 'perfidious Albion' from May that has unsettled me so.

[Nick Armstrong]

Roth/Les Siècles 14 July
Nott/Bamberg Mahler 5
Pappano/Rome Rach 2
... err... some other good bits and bobs...

but...

(Just a Rubbra "Ode"... no symphonies... )

[Suffolkcoastal]

Now had a good look. The Henze, Stravinsky, Tippett Prom and the RVW London Symphony, nothing else of interest at all. Some 1st or 2nd halfs ok, but the other half totally uninteresting and often poorly programmed. As I mentioned earlier where is Hindemith on his 50th Death Anniversary??? (oh I forgot the Dear Leader must hate his music), and Poulenc. I hope the Verdi enthusiasts give the Dear Leader a total roasting. Why do we have to have The Planets every year??? No Haydn, he really is treated appallingly by the Proms. American music almost entirely ignored as usual. Couldn't the American Youth Orchestra have played one big American work instead of yet another Shostakovich 10th???
Definitely far worse than last year unless you're a Wagner fan, and I'd rather listen to Wagner at home in comfort thankyou (and save money).

[gurnemanz]

Any chance of seating advice for the RAH for novices?

Depends how much you want to spend, of course. We often stand in the Arena, despite being in our 60s, but draw the line at more lengthy works,. I don't really like being right up high. It feels a bit remote but the last row was all we could get for VPO last year. We sat at the side in the Grand Tier for Trojans last year and had a good view which I think I prefer to the stalls. It can be quite enjoyable for a change to sit behind the orchestra in the Choir.

[duncan]

...scheduling Tristan between Siegfried and Götterdämmerung on three successive nights is downright peculiar.

Well that's chronologically more or less correct.

I'm only disappointed they couldn't find a Meistersinger to squeeze in on Sunday morning!

[prokkyshosty]

I'm saddened by the lack of half-season passes this year. Does anyone have any inside information about? Are they never to return, or is it (I hope!) just something they did for this year, being that cheap Wagnerites such as myself would've packed the front-loaded first half of the season and made life cramped and miserable for those Prommers who are in it for the long haul?

Also, how odd that Pittsburgh didn't pan out! All my side of the ocean has contributed this season is the NYOUSA, who I believe is from Ghana and plays midfield in the Championship.

[Anna]

And, Marin Alsop will be the first ever woman to conduct the Last Night.

Roger Wright said "He did not believe that having a female conductor would alter Last Night’s atmosphere of patriotic fervour. “It’s not just about the conductor, it’s about Nigel Kennedy and Joyce DiDonato. The Last Night is also about taking that audience further with 'The Building of the House', a lighter piece by Britten.”

Oh, Jolly Dee, it's all about Nige and Britten, not an historical occasion then with allowing a woman in?

He also said, in a TV interview I just caught the end of, about having a female conductor "Well, it's about working with what we have been given" <groan> <smite forehead> emoticon. Women, eh? Cannot conduct Kennedy for toffee ..... as for Britten ....

[EdgeleyRob]

Roth/Les Siècles 14 July
Nott/Bamberg Mahler 5
Pappano/Rome Rach 2
... err... some other good bits and bobs...

but...

(Just a Rubbra "Ode"... no symphonies... )

One day Cal,one day.

Nice too see George Lloyd's Requiem (in memory of Diana) programmed,I will certainly tune in for that (Britten a boy was born too).

RVW Sea and London symphonies,a bit of Arnold (light music prom! ) and a bit of Alwyn (film music ).

Erm........ yes that's it unless I see something else when I have a proper look.

Tippett 2,bit of Bantock,quite a bit of Britten .

Still can't find any Stanford.

[Petrushka]

A second look through the listings leaves me with the feeling that this isn't likely to be a vintage year. Definitely a second rate feel to proceedings this year, I'm afraid. Sad to see that Sir Colin Davis would have been the conductor for Prom 51 (I assume).

Perhaps I ought to have a 'proper' holiday this year!

[ferneyhoughgeliebte]

Nice too see George Lloyd's Requiem (in memory of Diana) programmed,I will certainly tune in for that (Britten a boy was born too).
RVW Sea and London symphonies,a bit of Arnold (light music prom! ) and a bit of Alwyn (film music ).
Erm........ yes that's it unless I see something else when I have a proper look.
Tippett 2,bit of Bantock,quite a bit of Britten .
Still can't find any Stanford.

Ah, stop yer whingin'! Five "bits of Bantock" (more than an hour's Music) and two by yer main man!

Meanwhile, some of us will have to have a certain composer's 70th birthday celebrations away from South Kensington!

Looking forward to the Lutoslawskis and the Feldman - and the Proms debut of Lachenmann!!! And the Midsummer Marriage. Best of all: the stuff from the Eton Choirbook coupled with Birtwistle.

And I love Barenboim's Wagner, too, so I'm quite happy.

[Thropplenoggin]

Ah, stop yer whingin'! Five "bits of Bantock" (more than an hour's Music) and two by yer main man!

Andrew Clements was unpleasantly snotty about the inclusion of the Bantock in this piece: http://www.guardian.co.uk/music/2013...013-highlights

As far as I can establish there is no significant Bantock anniversary to mark, so the sudden rush of enthusiasm seems strange. It doesn't even seem to be directly connected to the arrival of the BBCSO's new chief conductor, Sakari Oramo, who certainly had a fondness for exploring some of the dustier corners of 20th-century British music when he was with the City of Birmingham Symphony.

And there I was thinking it was a British concert series

[teamsaint]

I generally find it best to ignore the press, throppy.