The actual Proms programme 12 July - 7 September

[mrbouffant]

The 2013 listings are up on the website !

[Thropplenoggin]

http://www.bbc.co.uk/proms/whats-on/2013/july-12

Hmm. Not a single piece by Berg/Webern/Schoenberg whose music I'm just discovering along with Wagner. Lots of the latter, though. Tristan und Isolde looks tempting. I was also hoping for more Strauss - a few pieces, but not very thrillingly juxtapositioned, alas.

A surprising amount of DSCH. Fans of British composers should be happy, too, though again, not some of the Britten works I was hoping for.

Bamberger Orchestra/Nott in Mahler 5 could be exhilarating, though. And Janssons in Mahler 2.

[Suffolkcoastal]

Just had a look, some very odd programming, a tad too many light proms. A number of bits (but not his best) by Bantock as RW's usual carrots to the British music lovers, Tippett's 2nd Symphony (one positive piece at least). Of the anniversary composers, total overkill on Wagner, appalling treatment of Verdi, Britten probably about right, but perhaps a little less than expected, Poulenc just one chamber piece, Hindemith & K A Hartmann, not a note, which in the former's case in particular is an absolute disgrace!

[Thropplenoggin]

Any chance of seating advice for the RAH for novices?

[Podfather]

Full listings now on Proms website

http://www.bbc.co.uk/proms

[Hilaryjane]

Nigel has lost his street cred, Hilaryjane?

Well, one would think so by now. I still shudder to think what on earth he will be wearing on the Last Night!

[Bax-of-Delights]

No Moeran or Bax.

Bantock does get his Sappho Poem for cello aired and George Lloyd has the Requiem but most of the other British composers get shovelled into the "Light Music" or " Light Organ" prom.

As Thropplenogin posted: What NO Berg, Schoenberg or Webern?

[aeolium]

No Haydn (and not much at all IIRC since the anniversary year of 2009 - perhaps a couple of London symphonies). Haydn has not been fortunate with R3 and Proms Controllers at least in recent decades - Drummond for instance opined that the British had never taken to him.

[Thropplenoggin]

No Haydn (and not much at all IIRC since the anniversary year of 2009 - perhaps a couple of London symphonies). Haydn has not been fortunate with R3 and Proms Controllers at least in recent decades - Drummond for instance opined that the British had never taken to him.

Not an awful lot of Mozart, either.

[Bert Coules]

Three different Wotans, two Siegfrieds and two Brünnhildes is a bit of a shame. And scheduling Tristan between Siegfried and Götterdämmerung on three successive nights is downright peculiar.

Edited to add:

Please ignore "two Brünnhildes" - a complete mistake on my part. It's still a shame about the rest, though.

[LHC]

Three different Wotans, two Siegfrieds and two Brünnhildes is a bit of a shame. And scheduling Tristan between Siegfried and Götterdämmerung on three successive nights is downright peculiar.

According to the website, Nina Stemme is singing Brunnhilde in all Walkure, Siegfried and Gotterdammerung. Where does the second Brunnhilde come in?

[Bert Coules]

You're absolutely right: apologies all round. I've no idea where the phantom Brünnhilde rode in from.

[Petrushka]

Not greatly enthused so far. Side stalls seats for all of Barenboim's Ring come to £216 and there's only a couple more 'must go' Proms for me. Half a dozen Proms will cost as much as twice that number from previous seasons.

Scheduling Tristan in the middle of the Ring does seem odd but expense will rule it out anyway unless I prom.

[teamsaint]

have seat prices gone up a lot?

I prom if I go, so I don't usually bother looking.

Some interesting looking concerts, but I suppose there ought to be in a programme of that size.

[Bert Coules]

Yes, that's pricey but happily the fact that it's being conducted by Barenboim means that I'm not tempted to pay up to see that Ring: I don't care for his Wagner.