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  • BBMmk2
    Late Member
    • Nov 2010
    • 20908

    #31
    I do hope Tippett wilol get a revival soon. it's such a great shame he has fallewn into neglect. I do rather like his orchestral music, especially. i dont iknow his operas very well at all though.
    Don’t cry for me
    I go where music was born

    J S Bach 1685-1750

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    • ferneyhoughgeliebte
      Gone fishin'
      • Sep 2011
      • 30163

      #32
      Originally posted by Ferretfancy View Post
      For the record, I love the Triple Concerto, and have heard it live several times, and I'm fascinated by the symphonies and the string quartets which certainly deserve to be heard more often, so I'm not quite a lost cause !
      Never thought for a second that you were, Ferretf! In fact I was sure that you'd commented favourably on Tippett in other Threads, so I just wanted to urge you to give the Pno Conc another go, as I'm sure you'll find it "clicks".

      I was lucky enough to meet Tippett when he came to spend a day recording commentary for a biographical film in the old series One Pair of Eyes. He was very charming and approachable. a very good listener who assumed you could do your job well. It was a little sad that even then his sight was so bad that he had to read an enormously enlarged type using a magnifying glass.
      Lucky, indeed.
      [FONT=Comic Sans MS][I][B]Numquam Satis![/B][/I][/FONT]

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      • jayne lee wilson
        Banned
        • Jul 2011
        • 10711

        #33
        Tippett Symphony No.4 is live on R3 from the Barbican next Friday, 19:30 hrs, 12/04/13. BBCSO/Andrew Davis, with Jonathan Lloyd and Brahms. Will try to flag it up nearer the time, though next week looks a bit OMG for me...

        Interesting orchestral repertoire live on R3?! Excuse me while I faint.

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        • Thropplenoggin
          Full Member
          • Mar 2013
          • 1587

          #34
          Originally posted by jayne lee wilson View Post
          Tippett Symphony No.4 is live on R3 from the Barbican next Friday, 19:30 hrs, 12/04/13. BBCSO/Andrew Davis, with Jonathan Lloyd and Brahms. Will try to flag it up nearer the time, though next week looks a bit OMG for me...

          Interesting orchestral repertoire live on R3?! Excuse me while I faint.
          Speaking of "OMG!", your signature appears to be a quote from the film adaptation of that adolescent rite of passage, The Lord of the Rings. OMG! Or should that be, oh my ye elvish dwarf gods! ?

          Perhaps the Tippett appreciation comments should have a thread of their own?
          It loved to happen. -- Marcus Aurelius

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          • jayne lee wilson
            Banned
            • Jul 2011
            • 10711

            #35
            As usual with filmclips youtube won't allow a link, so seek out the signature quote and watch in HD...
            (Legolas, who brings down the oliphaunt, has a running competition with Gimli to see who can kill the most orcs...)

            Draw your own conclusions as to why I enjoy the wider resonance of the sentiment expressed...
            Last edited by jayne lee wilson; 03-04-13, 01:12.

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            • ahinton
              Full Member
              • Nov 2010
              • 16123

              #36
              Originally posted by ferneyhoughgeliebte View Post


              Tippett wrote many works that I adore, none more so than the Piano Concerto - up there with the "Corelli Fantasia" and The Midsummer Marriage (the very prospect of which makes the next Proms season unmissable). Do listen again, I beg, ferretf - the Osborne disc will do very nicely, as will Ogdon's premiere recording with Colin Davis if you can find it. Ben Frith plays the piano part superbly on NAXOS, but the conductor doesn't quite match the soloist's zestful mastery of Tippett's rhythms, and the recording isn't as clear as it needs to be. A great shame.
              Ogdon's was the first performance of Tippett's Piano Concerto that I ever heard; it's wonderful. Tippett seemed to want to return to the piano quite often, but his way with it was clumsy in the extreme - yet somehow that just didn't seem to matter. I enjoyed the Concerto so much I even started to try to learn to play it! (how incredibly stupid of a non-pianist like me! - but there)...

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              • bluestateprommer
                Full Member
                • Nov 2010
                • 3038

                #37
                Originally posted by Thropplenoggin View Post
                Perhaps the Tippett appreciation comments should have a thread of their own?
                Indeed, yes; please?

                Once again, back to the original thread topic, clearly being in the minority with respect to staying on topic, two more morsels about the pending Proms season:

                (1) August 8 (once you decode the seemingly e-dyslexic nature of the violinist's schedule presentation - something is clearly not consistent in the coding of months and days by number):



                "London, UK
                The Proms
                Royal Albert Hall
                BBC Philharmonic / John Storgards
                Bruch Concerto"
                (2) More generically, the 4th non-UK ensemble looks confirmed to be the Warsaw Philharmonic, in what will be their Proms debut, performing Lutosławski:



                "July-September

                Warsaw Philharmonic Orchestra at the BBC Proms Festival in London."
                In all likelihood, the Warsaw PO will be @ The Proms in August, since Google revealed a passage from the Warsaw Philharmonic's website that appears in the Google search, but is scrubbed from the orchestra's site. Further digging reveals a few Polish-language articles that talk about a recent Grammy win by Antoni Wit for a Naxos recording of Lutosławski, with this passage that spills the beans about their pending Prom appearance, with my reworking of the Google Translation:



                "Najbliższe plany koncertowe Antoniego Wita, oprócz występów w kierowanej przez niego Filharmonii Narodowej, obejmują m.in. koncert z Orkiestrą Filharmonii Narodowej na londyńskim festiwalu BBC Proms w sierpniu 2013 r.; będzie to pierwszy występ polskiej orkiestry."

                "Next concert plans for Antoni Wit, in addition to appearances led by the National Philharmonic (*), include a concert with the National Philharmonic Orchestra in London's BBC Proms in August 2013, will be the first Proms appearance by a Polish orchestra."

                (*) literal translation of Filharmonii Narodowej
                Indeed, a look at the Proms Archive reveals that the Warsaw Philharmonic is listed among the performers, but they have no actual appearance dates in the archive, of course. Evidently someone else jumped the gun at the BBC in revealing a bit of the season in advance.
                Last edited by bluestateprommer; 03-04-13, 03:56.

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                • Simon B
                  Full Member
                  • Dec 2010
                  • 782

                  #38
                  There's allegedly a concert performance of Parsifal with Elder/Halle (and some singers, presumably!) at some point. How's that for vague?

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                  • Rasluap
                    Full Member
                    • Mar 2011
                    • 13

                    #39
                    And a bit more. The following found in the press release section of the Pittsburgh Symphony website, as announced on 16 January:


                    PITTSBURGH SYMPHONY EUROPEAN TOUR: AUGUST - SEPTEMBER 2013

                    "The tour will take the orchestra to Austria, Germany, Romania, France, Switzerland and the United Kingdom.........An additional concert in the United Kingdom will be announced at a later date. The PSO performed in Lucerne, Bonn, Berlin and London in 2011."

                    Curious that all the other dates and locations have been announced, with the exception of the UK concert. Maybe we can look forward to enjoying that outstanding horn section again this year?

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                    • Petrushka
                      Full Member
                      • Nov 2010
                      • 12508

                      #40
                      Originally posted by bluestateprommer View Post
                      Indeed, yes; please?

                      Once again, back to the original thread topic, clearly being in the minority with respect to staying on topic, two more morsels about the pending Proms season:

                      (1) August 8 (once you decode the seemingly e-dyslexic nature of the violinist's schedule presentation - something is clearly not consistent in the coding of months and days by number):





                      (2) More generically, the 4th non-UK ensemble looks confirmed to be the Warsaw Philharmonic, in what will be their Proms debut, performing Lutosławski:





                      In all likelihood, the Warsaw PO will be @ The Proms in August, since Google revealed a passage from the Warsaw Philharmonic's website that appears in the Google search, but is scrubbed from the orchestra's site. Further digging reveals a few Polish-language articles that talk about a recent Grammy win by Antoni Wit for a Naxos recording of Lutosławski, with this passage that spills the beans about their pending Prom appearance, with my reworking of the Google Translation:





                      Indeed, a look at the Proms Archive reveals that the Warsaw Philharmonic is listed among the performers, but they have no actual appearance dates in the archive, of course. Evidently someone else jumped the gun at the BBC in revealing a bit of the season in advance.
                      BSP, your detection skills in digging out all this info from the web is amazing! Not long to go now until we have the official list.
                      "The sound is the handwriting of the conductor" - Bernard Haitink

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                      • bluestateprommer
                        Full Member
                        • Nov 2010
                        • 3038

                        #41
                        Per Rasluap's post (good catch; shame on me, an American, for missing it), the relevant posting on the Pittsburgh SO's site (extremely unfriendly for finding press releases) is here:



                        "The tour program will feature Richard Strauss' Ein Heldenleben, Dmitri Shostakovich’s Symphony No. 5, a suite from Leoš Janáček's Jenůfa, Ravel's Bolero and Rapsodie Espagnole, and Witold Lutoslawski's Chain 2 for Violin and Orchestra. [Anne-Sophie] Mutter will perform Dvořák's Violin Concerto; [Yuja] Wang will play Tchaikovsky's Piano Concerto No. 1."
                        One hopes that their Prom will feature the Lutosławski, in keeping with the centenary. Otherwise, the PSO's fare is definitely populist and crowd-pleasing. The press release was cagey about the UK city, but Andrew Druckenbrod in the Pittsburgh Post-Gazette was a bit more forthright:



                        "Other stops include Paris (Sept. 6), Dusseldorf (Sept. 7) and Frankfurt (Sept. 8), Germany, and London (date TBA)."
                        Plus, the Edinburgh Festival schedule doesn't include the PSO, so by default, the city will indeed be London. The open dates in the itinerary are Sept. 1, 2, 4, and 5. Given that Paris is Sept. 6, at the risk of a heinously wrong prediction, my guess would be Sept. 5 for their Prom, almost exactly 2 years after their prior gigs at the RAH. I can also readily imagine that the PSO musicians will make another donation from the stage to the Promenaders' Musical Charities during the interval. I don't think it's much of a stretch to say that Chris Newman would have been absolutely thrilled to know about the PSO's return, and no doubt would have booked tickets immediately.

                        One more tidbit for this summer is from the concert diary of Aliye Cornish:



                        "August 2013

                        9th August - English Baroque Soloists/Monteverdi Choir/John Eliot Gardiner
                        Bach - Easter Oratorio/Ascension Oratorio
                        Royal Albert Hall, London (BBC Proms)"
                        For Petrushka, well, it's probably a sign of how much I go about digging up this stuff that I need seriously to get a life :) . Thanks for the compliment. However, I may not have much more luck digging up these nuggets in the next 2 weeks. We'll see.

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                        • Suffolkcoastal
                          Full Member
                          • Nov 2010
                          • 3299

                          #42
                          The Pittsburgh repertoire looks totally uninteresting except possibly the Lutoslawski. Why is it that when they come to the UK, Russian orchestras play plenty of Russian music, Scandinavian, Scandinavian music, French, French music etc, but American orchestras play just about anything but the music of their country, apart from the occasional short populist piece.

                          From the brief hints so far, it looks like it may be a stay away Proms again this year for me. Much as I like Wagner I couldn't sit through an opera in concert format. I just hope they'll be something more to my taste when its all published in a couple of weeks.

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                          • bluestateprommer
                            Full Member
                            • Nov 2010
                            • 3038

                            #43
                            Latest advance tidbit is more about another Proms debut ensemble rather than a particular program, namely, the scheduled first appearance of Camerata Ireland at this summer's Proms:



                            Under "Forthcoming events & Diary Dates":

                            "We shall be at the BBC Proms on Sat 10 August...."
                            Though gliding over the Proms embargo, the page rather pointedly avoids mentioning that this August 10 date will be their first appearance at The Proms.

                            The only hint that I can gleam about their possible program is the program that CI will be doing at the Kilkenny Arts Festival on August 11, led by Barry Douglas:

                            Oops! You've lost your way. It seems the page you were looking for is no longer here, but we have lots of new pages on our website, we hope the links below will help you find what you are looking...


                            Britten: Young Apollo, Op. 16
                            Elgar: Serenade for strings
                            Shostakovich: Concerto for Piano and Trumpet, Op. 35

                            Lennox Berkeley: Divertimento in B flat, Op. 18
                            Britten: Frank Bridge Variations
                            If CI and BD were to do the above program at The Proms, it would actually be a pretty decent program. The Lennox Berkeley Serenade hasn't been at The Proms since 1977, for example.

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                            • Stephen Smith

                              #44
                              According to Intermezzo:- Tristan (Bychkov) is on 27 and Parsifal (Elder) on 29 July. Tannhaüser on 4th August too (RD Smith and Runnicles). Will it be safe (psychological - health/well being) to go to the Ring (22-28 July) as well as these two? One of the comments - "Non-Wagnerians will be thrilled! ".

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                              • Petrushka
                                Full Member
                                • Nov 2010
                                • 12508

                                #45
                                Originally posted by Stephen Smith View Post
                                According to Intermezzo:- Tristan (Bychkov) is on 27 and Parsifal (Elder) on 29 July. Tannhaüser on 4th August too (RD Smith and Runnicles). Will it be safe (psychological - health/well being) to go to the Ring (22-28 July) as well as these two? One of the comments - "Non-Wagnerians will be thrilled! ".
                                http://intermezzo.typepad.com/interm...7eea0ec470970d
                                If this does indeed turn out to be the case then it really is 'anniversary overkill'. I've adored Wagner's music for over 40 years but a schedule like that is madness.
                                "The sound is the handwriting of the conductor" - Bernard Haitink

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