Prom 46 (16.8.12): Vaughan Williams – Symphonies Nos. 4, 5 & 6

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  • EdgeleyRob
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    • Nov 2010
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    #16
    Originally posted by ucanseetheend View Post
    If I could have got to one concert at this years Proms this was it , My three favourite RVW Symphonies all in one concert , sadly it will be just the Iplayer , but how much I would love to have been in the Promenaders standing area, Enjoy it, those who are there.
    PS. All this from an Elgarian , But British music at its best which I want to hear at the BBC Proms.
    Well said,but if I'm being picky my three faves are 5,7&9

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    • AmpH
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      • Feb 2012
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      #17
      Originally posted by prokkyshosty View Post
      This is likely to be my Proms highlight as well -- can't wait! I do wish the beautiful Fifth would have a spot on its own, though. There's going to be a lot of rustling and general fidgeting in the hall, which only does that wonderful work a disservice.

      I wonder if in the coming seasons there will be a Sea Symphony/Sinfonia Antarctica pairing. Perhaps turn up the air-con at intermission?
      I may be wrong, but it is my understanding that all the RVW Symphonies are going to be performed over the course of the next few years' Proms

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      • mrbouffant
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        • Aug 2011
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        #18
        Originally posted by EdgeleyRob View Post
        Well said,but if I'm being picky my three faves are 5,7&9
        I have a soft spot for 8, given it was the first RVW symphony I heard live (Proms '91 - what a great concert that was: Walton Crown Imperial, Bliss Pft Concerto, Arnold Guitar Concerto, RVW 8) - so look forward to that in a future season.

        I enjoy 2 more than 3, and as for 4,5 and 6 perhaps tomorrow night will prove a formative experience - if I can stay awake.

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        • Serial_Apologist
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          • Dec 2010
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          #19
          Originally posted by mrbouffant View Post
          I have a soft spot for 8, given it was the first RVW symphony I heard live (Proms '91 - what a great concert that was: Walton Crown Imperial, Bliss Pft Concerto, Arnold Guitar Concerto, RVW 8) - so look forward to that in a future season.

          I enjoy 2 more than 3, and as for 4,5 and 6 perhaps tomorrow night will prove a formative experience - if I can stay awake.
          You'll find it very difficult to drop off during 4 and 6, I assure you!

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          • mercia
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            • Nov 2010
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            #20
            I would have them in the order 6 then 4, with 5 after the interval
            now you know

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            • Northender

              #21
              Originally posted by mercia View Post
              I would have them in the order 6 then 4, with 5 after the interval
              now you know
              I think one needs time to recover from 4, but doesn't want to be 'assaulted' right at the start.

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              • Nick Armstrong
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                • Nov 2010
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                #22
                Originally posted by mercia View Post
                I would have them in the order 6 then 4, with 5 after the interval
                now you know
                I'm not sure I agree, mercia. I can see your reasoning, but I think 6 and 4 one on top of the other would be a bit much. I like the contrast of the running order tomorrow night.

                Looking forward to being there hugely - also going to the Americana-fest tonight
                "...the isle is full of noises,
                Sounds and sweet airs, that give delight and hurt not.
                Sometimes a thousand twangling instruments
                Will hum about mine ears, and sometime voices..."

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                • Ferretfancy
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                  • Nov 2010
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                  #23
                  I shall be there, but after a longish evening I'm afraid that the hushed last movement of 6 will be drowned in coughs and shuffles.

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                  • salymap
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                    • Nov 2010
                    • 5969

                    #24
                    Originally posted by Ferretfancy View Post
                    I shall be there, but after a longish evening I'm afraid that the hushed last movement of 6 will be drowned in coughs and shuffles.
                    6 is my favourite - it made such an impact on me when first played and that has never lessened with a good performance.

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                    • Northender

                      #25
                      It was Granada TV's 'A Family At War' that first made me aware of the 6th. Previously, I'd heard only the usual VW 'suspects', such as the Greensleeves Fantasia and some of the folk-tune arrangements.

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                      • ferneyhoughgeliebte
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                        • Sep 2011
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                        #26
                        Originally posted by mercia View Post
                        I would have them in the order 6 then 4, with 5 after the interval
                        I'd have them in the order 4, 5, 6; but with two 20 minute intervals between them.

                        Favourite RVW Symphony: whichever one I am listening to between 3 - 7, & 9. If pushed, probably No5. Or 3.
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                        • ahinton
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                          • Nov 2010
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                          #27
                          Originally posted by ferneyhoughgeliebte View Post
                          I'd have them in the order 4, 5, 6; but with two 20 minute intervals between them.
                          That's an excellent idea! I think that it's an intriguing piece of programming, actually, for all that the idea of a concert comprising just three 20th century symphonies and nothing else is a mite unusual, particularly if they're all by the same composer. I'm not sure how many other composers' works would stand up to such programming, though - perhaps Shostakovich 1, 9 & 15? - or maybe Rubbra 1, 7 & 11? - or Arnold 5, 7 & 9?

                          Leaving the one-composer bit out of the agenda, here's an (albeit impractical) one - and most certainly not as a contribution to Jayne's Fantasy Prom thread(!) - for an enterprising youth orchestra on some substance or other: Mahler 6 - interval - Pettersson 9 - interval - Shostakovich 4; the challenge - apart from the obvious one for the players in terms of stamina alone - would be for the audience to see if it could face getting and leaving afterwards or whether they'd be just too depressed and despondent to do so...

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                          • Roehre

                            #28
                            Originally posted by ahinton View Post
                            That's an excellent idea! I think that it's an intriguing piece of programming, actually, for all that the idea of a concert comprising just three 20th century symphonies and nothing else is a mite unusual, particularly if they're all by the same composer. I'm not sure how many other composers' works would stand up to such programming, though - perhaps Shostakovich 1, 9 & 15? - or maybe Rubbra 1, 7 & 11? - or Arnold 5, 7 & 9?..
                            Sibelius 1- interval- 3 and 7 as well as 6, 5 - interval- 2 works well (knowing this by experience)

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                            • Boilk
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                              • Dec 2010
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                              #29
                              Originally posted by Serial_Apologist View Post
                              You'll find it very difficult to drop off during 4 and 6, I assure you!
                              Maybe not so much the pianissimo-like finale of 6, an ending almost as quietly shattering as Shostakovich 4.

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                              • teamsaint
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                                • Nov 2010
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                                #30
                                I think that the conductor should ask for a show of of hands, to decide which to play first.(and again for the second).
                                After all, the audience pay the wages.
                                I will not be pushed, filed, stamped, indexed, briefed, debriefed or numbered. My life is my own.

                                I am not a number, I am a free man.

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