Prom 46 (16.8.12): Vaughan Williams – Symphonies Nos. 4, 5 & 6

[Rolmill]

The age and conservatism of many forum members...

I assume that's a joke...if not, I don't think it's born out by the range of the contributions and, in any case, I wouldn't associate RVW 4 or 6 with conservatism!

[Ferretfancy]

I spoke to a group of twenty year olds after the RVW Prom. All of them knew and loved the 5th, two had heard the 6th before, and they all had been looking forward to hearing the 4th and had ben very impressed. I asked if they were music students, and they were not. In my experience there have been more young people at this year's Proms than I have ever before.

[mercia]

I asked if they were music students, and they were not.

did you ask them if they listened to Radio 3 ?

[probably not the breakfast "show", that's a bit early]

[amateur51]

I spoke to a group of twenty year olds after the RVW Prom. All of them knew and loved the 5th, two had heard the 6th before, and they all had been looking forward to hearing the 4th and had ben very impressed. I asked if they were music students, and they were not. In my experience there have been more young people at this year's Proms than I have ever before.

What a cheering post, Ferret - many thanks

[Tristan Klingsor]

did you ask them if they listened to Radio 3 ?

[probably not the breakfast "show", that's a bit early]

Probably not the Breakfast Show because it's crap.

[ucanseetheend]

Just to say the Concert is up on youtube now even if its 7 days on iplayer are over http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=q9YoEETzYsE

[ferneyhoughgeliebte]

Probably not the Breakfast Show because it's crap.

I was going to say "naff", but yours is the more accurate, Tristan.

[FoxyTheCat]

Curious that Rattle never touches this repertoire.

He was I believe knighted for services to British Music.

RVW declined a knighthood.

[teamsaint]

Curious that Rattle never touches this repertoire.

He was I believe knighted for services to British Music.

RVW declined a knighthood.

interesting......in fact IIRC from what others have posted, most of the more recently knighted conductors don't do much RVW.(but I may have got that wrong).
A conspiracy theorists dream....does Rattle really not rate this body of work...or are there other reasons ?

[AmpH]

interesting......in fact IIRC from what others have posted, most of the more recently knighted conductors don't do much RVW.(but I may have got that wrong).
A conspiracy theorists dream....does Rattle really not rate this body of work...or are there other reasons ?

The only RVW works that I am aware Rattle has recorded are Songs of Travel, On Wenlock Edge and The Lark Ascending. He likes to record Thomas Ades though and ' pretend Bruckner ' symphonies

[Bryn]

The only RVW works that I am aware Rattle has recorded are Songs of Travel, On Wenlock Edge and The Lark Ascending. He likes to record Thomas Ades though and ' pretend Bruckner ' symphonies

The 4th and 7th only "pretend' Bruckner symphonies? Well I never.

[amateur51]

Curious that Rattle never touches this repertoire.

He was I believe knighted for services to British Music.

RVW declined a knighthood.

Did Handley conduct Bruckner? Did Boult conduct Janacek? Where's Hickox's Turangalila? Cut the guy some slack, for goodness' sake

[AmpH]

The 4th and 7th only "pretend' Bruckner symphonies? Well I never.

indeed

[teamsaint]

Did Handley conduct Bruckner? Did Boult conduct Janacek? Where's Hickox's Turangalila? Cut the guy some slack, for goodness' sake

speaking personally, I am just curious about it......its true to say that conductors have to made some tough choices.

Plus, i like a nice conspiracy theory...!!

[Petrushka]

Did Handley conduct Bruckner? Did Boult conduct Janacek? Where's Hickox's Turangalila? Cut the guy some slack, for goodness' sake

Rattle conducted the RVW 5 in his Birmingham days as well as Flos Campi, the Tallis Fantasia and the Serenade to Music. And he played timps in the London Symphony. It's true, though, that RVW doesn't appeal to him and he knows that others will do it better. Fair enough. Haitink feels much the same way about Sibelius (though I see he has the Violin Concerto planned).