Prom 43 (14.8.12): Delius, Saint-Saëns & Tchaikovsky

[Serial_Apologist]

Right first time, Cali!

Could I suppose be adapted for the renewed, post-Lympics govt "we're all in this together" propaganda bid - e.g. a syonk estate.

[Anna]

Thanks both! I take it that it sounds just how it looks? One syllable - syonk - or two - see-onc?

To be pedantic about pronunciation - in Welsh 'si' followed by a vowel is a 'sh' (such as the name Sian, or Y Sioe = Show = The Royal Welsh or siop = shop!) and sionc is properly said as 'shonk' Not to be confused of course with Australian slang 'shonky' A Welsh 'c' is always a 'k' and never a 's' as in English city. Whether they say it differently in the Land of Gog I'm not sure, North Walians do speak a very different language at times....

[amateur51]

To be pedantic about pronunciation - in Welsh 'si' followed by a vowel is a 'sh' (such as the name Sian, or Y Sioe = Show = The Royal Welsh or siop = shop!) and sionc is properly said as 'shonk' Not to be confused of course with Australian slang 'shonky' A Welsh 'c' is always a 'k' and never a 's' as in English city. Whether they say it differently in the Land of Gog I'm not sure, North Walians do speak a very different language at times....

Especially at those times when our Southern brethren were still learning to read & write

There is, of course, no 'k' in the Welsh alphabet - not ever

[Roehre]

To be pedantic about pronunciation - in Welsh 'si' followed by a vowel is a 'sh' (such as the name Sian, or Y Sioe = Show = The Royal Welsh or siop = shop!) and sionc is properly said as 'shonk' Not to be confused of course with Australian slang 'shonky' A Welsh 'c' is always a 'k' and never a 's' as in English city. Whether they say it differently in the Land of Gog I'm not sure, North Walians do speak a very different language at times....

In this case (as a Cogi) I have to admit that this Hwntw (South Welsh) statement bears some truth

[Anna]

There is, of course, no 'k' in the Welsh alphabet - not ever

Yes, and I was not intending to get into a discussion about Yr Wyddor Gymraeg, but merely pointing out that a Welsh 'c' was the same as an English 'k' for those Saesneg wanting to speak it!! Neither is there a J, Q, V, X, or Z, but yet, we have 28 letters in the alphabet! How clever is that? And I think we should not derail this thread further!

[Serial_Apologist]

Especially at those times when our Southern brethren were still learning to read & write

There is, of course, no 'k' in the Welsh alphabet - not ever

Not even room for a Special K??

[amateur51]

Yes, and I was not intending to get into a discussion about Yr Wyddor Gymraeg, but merely pointing out that a Welsh 'c' was the same as an English 'k' for those Saesneg wanting to speak it!! Neither is there a J, Q, V, X, or Z, but yet, we have 28 letters in the alphabet! How clever is that? And I think we should not derail this thread further!

yeah yeah yeah

[antongould]

I did also, well done ams51, an erudite music critic added to all your other talents

I'm going to try the old Proms lists to see who used to play that concerto a lot.Could be Moura Lympany, Eileen Joyce, even Evonne Arnaud [sp]. Good to hear it again, fast or not.

Yes cracking review Ams just caught up with it and the repeat today on R3 - enjoyed the Delius and the Saint-Saens. Of course salymap the PC was a favourite of your beloved old scoundrel Arthur he more or less started his concert career with it.