Prom 7 (18.7.12): Handel – Water Music and Music for the Royal Fireworks

[Eine Alpensinfonie]

Wednesday 18 July at 10.15 p.m.
Royal Albert Hall

Handel: Water Music Suite No. 1 in F major (26 mins)
Handel: Water Music Suite No. 2 in D Major (10 mins)
Handel: Water Music Suite No. 3 in G major (10 mins)
Handel: Music for the Royal Fireworks (17 mins)

Hervé Niquet conductor, Proms debut artist
Le Concert Spirituel

[Eine Alpensinfonie]

I really would have thought a brief interval of (say) 5 minutes would be appropriate between the two works.

[ferneyhoughgeliebte]

I really would have thought a brief interval of (say) 5 minutes would be appropriate between the two works.

Considering the change of orchestral personnel, there probably will be!

Really looking forward to this one: Niquet and the Spirituels are superb.

[amateur51]

Considering the change of orchestral personnel, there probably will be!

Really looking forward to this one: Niquet and the Spirituels are superb.

Hope it's a nice warm dry evening too :sigh:

[Pabmusic]

Hope it's a nice warm dry evening too :sigh:

And that the grand centrepiece doesn't catch fire!

[amateur51]

And that the grand centrepiece doesn't catch fire!

not much chance of anything catching fire in UK this summer, Pabs

[Pabmusic]

not much chance of anything catching fire in UK this summer, Pabs

How true.

[Eine Alpensinfonie]

In the old BBC Messageboard daysl I remember commenting on the over-enthusiastic HIPPster editor, who wrote the word "presto" the beginning of the famous Air in the F Major Water Music Suite. I understand that neither of the contemporary manuscripts have any such indication.

[Il Grande Inquisitor]

This is a Prom I'm really looking forward to, despite the ridiculous late night home.

[ferneyhoughgeliebte]

I remember commenting on the over-enthusiastic HIPPster editor, who wrote the word "presto" the beginning of the famous Air in the F Major Water Music Suite.

Name of editor?
Edition s/he edited?

... or is this just yet another wishful-thinking yarn "remembered" from the thin air of those Alpine summits?

I understand that neither of the contemporary manuscripts have any such indication.

Steady on, Alpie! Using contemporary sources to back up your argument?! You'll get thrown out of the !Anti-HIPPster Club!

[Eine Alpensinfonie]

Name of editor?
Edition s/he edited?

... or is this just yet another wishful-thinking yarn "remembered" from the thin air of those Alpine summits?

It's the "new" Eulenburg score - will look up the editor when I get home.

Steady on, Alpie! Using contemporary sources to back up your argument?! You'll get thrown out of the !Anti-HIPPster Club!

The problem here is that we rely mainly on the Arnold version, which is a copy, not a Handel original. I'm not so much an "Anti-HIPPster" as an "anti-make-it-up-as-you-go-along-and-call-it-historically-informed-ster". I buy many HIPP recordings, but none of them are Norrington's.

[JohnSkelton]

The problem here is that we rely mainly on the Arnold version, which is a copy, not a Handel original.

This http://books.google.co.uk/books?id=o...arnold&f=false might be useful.

[Ferretfancy]

I rather hope they put the fountain back with a royal barge or two, but I doubt it!

[Eine Alpensinfonie]

It's the "new" Eulenburg score - will look up the editor when I get home.

Roger Fiske

[ferneyhoughgeliebte]

Roger Fiske

Yes, when you mentioned "Eulenburg", I thought it must be he, and I rushed for my own copy - only to find that I only have his edition of the Fireworks!
Fiske is (usually) a scrupulous editor, checking different sources very carefully and presenting his "findings" in the prefaces of the scores. Perhaps he had an off-day? Or perhaps there is a contemporary edition with Presto marked?!