Prom 2 (14.7.12): Lerner & Loewe – My Fair Lady

[Osborn]

Most orchestras have to do this sort of thing now. It's changed in my lifetime.

Not in Vienna. Haven't members of the mighty VPO sacrificed their New Year revelry for countless years in order to give three concerts of silly music to po faced audiences?

(Mind you, it's hard to imagine that Viennese revelry is anything but genteel and worth a miss...)

[Flosshilde]

I think the Proms always have been the last night knees-up for most people.

[David Underdown]

There was an official tweet that it was not going to be televised due to rights issues

[Richard Tarleton]

(But Walt Disney still had raccoons wandering around England in 101 Dalmations. )

And an American Robin in Mary Poppins.

(off thread, my favourite ornithological howler remains the chaffinch you can hear in Full Metal Jacket )

[David-G]

Not in Vienna. Haven't members of the mighty VPO sacrificed their New Year revelry for countless years in order to give three concerts of silly music to po faced audiences?

(Mind you, it's hard to imagine that Viennese revelry is anything but genteel and worth a miss...)

Perhaps "festive" rather than "silly"?

[Osborn]

For "silly" read "festive"? Yes, all right then.
(though the Coronation Ode in Prom 1 made a good case for "festive" equals "silly"...)

[Eine Alpensinfonie]

For "silly" read "festive"? Yes, all right then.
(though the Coronation Ode in Prom 1 made a good case for "festive" equals "silly"...)

Say what you like about the Coronation Ode, but I claim (probably wrongly) credit for its inclusion (though I did suggest that it might replace the second half of the Last Night).

[Flosshilde]

Say what you like about the Coronation Ode, but I claim (probably wrongly) credit for its inclusion (though I did suggest that it might replace the second half of the Last Night).

That would certainly put a damper on the Last Night 'jollity'. Not much opportunity for party poppers & hooters.

[MrGongGong]

Say what you like about the Coronation Ode,.

Ok

It's crap

[cloughie]

Ah Benny Green - how I miss him

Hans Keller, Norman Lebrecht, Benny Green - The Line of Beauty

I remember Benny Green, on his Sunday afternoon programme having listened to some 1960s Barbra Streisand track say that she was quite good when she sang proper songs! He was right - I think that was before she returned to proper songs with her Broadway Album!

[ferneyhoughgeliebte]

Ok

It's crap

In the absence of a "sniggering-behind-hand-emoticon":

[bluestateprommer]

Sadly, it doesn't take a genius to work out that for the general public this is becoming 'what the Proms are about' - not in making 'classical music' more accessible, but in making the Proms more accessible. Still, who's going to sniff at a 'packed house'?

Well, it might be salutary to take a look at the Proms Archive, particularly the Glock years (specifically the 1960s), and note that every season, there was a Gilbert & Sullivan "pops" (to use an Americanism - sorry, can't help it) Prom. In addition, I'm reminded of this passage from a chapter in The Proms: A New History (p. 182):

"....Glock could be practical, too, as when he was asked by Richard Marriott, the Assistant Director of Sound Broadcasting, to ensure that Saturday evenings were good box office nights with programmes suitable for airing on the Light Programme. Far from dismissing this suggestion, and no doubt understanding it as a price for central Corporation support, Glock replied, 'You will be asking me for a tight-rope act, but it's the kind of challenge I enjoy.'"

It wasn't all Birtwistle, Maxwell Davies, Stockhausen, Boulez, and Nono during the Glock years.

If it's any consolation, the same sort of phenomenon is happening here with a few US opera companies, reaching out to stage musicals in addition to operas. Glimmerglass is staging The Music Man and Lost in the Stars this summer. Rumor has it that Lyric Opera of Chicago will be staging Oklahoma! down the line.

Getting back to the thread, I enjoyed hearing this Prom on iPlayer, although Anthony Andrews struck me as a bit OTT on the radio. Maybe he felt that the cavernous space of the RAH required that from him. But he can definitely sing more notes than Rex Harrison, which granted isn't saying much. Except for Alun Armstrong and Sian Phillips, the rest of the cast was unknown to me (but then, I am American), but everyone was good. It was interesting to hear a more "weary" interpretation from Jenny Galloway as Mrs. Pearce, compared to Mona Washbourne in the movie. One small touch in the dialogue was to make the American millionaire "Ezra D. Wannafeller", which was the name in Shaw's original Pygmalion, but which Lerner altered in the musical to "Ezra D. Wallingford".

But just from seeing still photographs on The Arts Desk blog, the performance must have been an amazing treat to experience live in the RAH. I'm not normally a big fan of musicals, but I would have been happy to Prom for this one had I had the opportunity.