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  • jayne lee wilson
    Banned
    • Jul 2011
    • 10711

    Proms Fantasies

    Their eyes met across a crowded arena... she rushed to him, her heart racing and said...
    "Scandalous, the dearth of English music this season!"

    So, fantasy programme planners, what are you missing? Transylvanian organ music? Australian Piano Concertos of the 1920s?
    Show Mr Wright where he's going wrong... with your preferred performers, likely or not...
    Your starter for 3...

    Janacek: Suite, Cunning little Vixen
    David Matthews: The Music of Dawn
    Bartok: The Wooden Prince
    (BBCPhil/Martin Brabbins)

    Stravinsky:Symphony in 3 movements
    Procol Harem, arr. Kennedy: A whiter shade of pale
    Tippett: Symphony No.2
    BBCSO/Rattle

    Poulenc: Stabat Mater
    Bruckner: Mass No.2
    Philharmonia/Dohnanyi
  • ahinton
    Full Member
    • Nov 2010
    • 16123

    #2
    Originally posted by jayne lee wilson View Post
    Their eyes met across a crowded arena... she rushed to him, her heart racing and said...
    "Scandalous, the dearth of English music this season!"
    !!! - and if that had been you and I, you'd almost certainly have cried "why isn't there more Schönberg?"...

    Originally posted by jayne lee wilson View Post
    So, fantasy programme planners, what are you missing? Transylvanian organ music? Australian Piano Concertos of the 1920s?
    Show Mr Wright where he's going wrong... with your preferred performers, likely or not...
    Your starter for 3...

    Janacek: Suite, Cunning little Vixen
    David Matthews: The Music of Dawn
    Bartok: The Wooden Prince
    (BBCPhil/Martin Brabbins)

    Stravinsky:Symphony in 3 movements
    Procol Harem, arr. Kennedy: A whiter shade of pale
    Tippett: Symphony No.2
    BBCSO/Rattle

    Poulenc: Stabat Mater
    Bruckner: Mass No.2
    Philharmonia/Dohnanyi
    Love the first one. David Matthews certainly has an ear and imagination for the symphonic poem - I expect you know others from him such as In the Dark Time; a very remarkable composer whose twelve (to date) quartets are in the throes of being recorded for Toccata Classics.

    As to the second; I daresay I could manage to sit (or even stand) the Egregious Igor out if done by those forces (it's one of his very few post-Petrushka works that has any appeal for me, I'm afraid and at least it doesn't outstay its welcome - it knows when to stop, so the composer says "right, let's stop - a nice scrunchy D flat major chord with added wotsits and then some applause, methinks"...). Mention of Tippett 2 (surely his finest symphony?) reminds me of another way this could be done - by sidelining the over-performed Igor and doing what those same forces did once a few years ago by having that in the first half and Bush's Piano Concerto (yes, you know which Bush!) in the second, except that the latter would need some more rehearsal time that it appeared to get previously and Rattle instead of Slattle would elevate the experience considerably (and it would have the added advantage of not needing an intervening "Harem", which would both cost BBC too much and run the possible risk of attracting "the wrong kind of audience for the wrong kinds of reason")...

    Anyway, how's about:

    Nielsen: Symphony No. 6
    Lloyd: (you know which one!): Symphony No. 6
    Sibelius: Symphony No. 6
    Shostakovich: Sympony No. 6

    Another good one would be a programme that I heard years ago in the Victoria Rooms, Bristol played by the Brunel Orchestra / Austin and which comprised:

    Payne: Time's Arrow
    Elgar: Symphony No. 3
    Perhaps BBCSO/Knussen for that

    Or perhaps

    Matthews (you know which one!): Symphony No. 6
    Mahler: Symphony No. 6
    BBCSSO/Runnicles

    I suppose that one should be careful in the choice of "presenter" for each such concert, especially given the risk that at least one possibility among them might be relied upon to paraphrase both Churchill and Webern by declaring of the Mahler "the only Sixth, despite all the others!"....

    Lastly (for now, anyway):

    Stevenson: Violin Concerto
    Shostakovich: Symphony No. 4
    Mistry / BPO/Rattle

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    • Beef Oven

      #3
      Brian - The Gothic, Brabbins et al.

      With cameras!

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      • Bryn
        Banned
        • Mar 2007
        • 24688

        #4
        Originally posted by Beef Oven View Post
        Brian - The Gothic, Brabbins et al.

        With cameras!
        And decent audio engineering for Radio 3, unlike the mess SIS Live made of it last year.

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        • Beef Oven

          #5
          Originally posted by Bryn View Post
          And decent audio engineering for Radio 3, unlike the mess SIS Live made of it last year.
          At least the Hyperion boys had something to work on!

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          • Richard Tarleton

            #6
            A programme of Byrd and Tallis including you-know-what with some imaginative use of space. Performers - lots of candidates.
            Proms matinee - Dowland songs and lute music, Jakob Lindberg and Emma Kirkby.

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            • Suffolkcoastal
              Full Member
              • Nov 2010
              • 3290

              #7
              Any programmes involving the composers that RW clearly dislikes and which are consequently now or in the process of becoming more marginalised by his regime.

              For example Scandinavian composers outside of the 'big three' e.g. Berwald, Holmboe, Rosenberg, Melartin, Atterburg, Gade.
              Composers such as Milhaud, Honegger, Ropartz, Magnard, Hindemith, Martinu, Miaskovsky. PLus late Stravinsky and what has happened to Carter?
              American composers (now only represented by a handful of works and composers), composers I would like to see include, Harris, Schuman, Piston, Hanson, Sessions, Diamond and even Chadwick & Paine, plus lesser known works by Copland, Barber etc.
              British composers such as Alwyn, Arnold, Bliss, Rubbra, Stanford, Potter.
              Other composers of the 'classical era' M Haydn, Vanhal, Krommer etc, and also more F J Haydn!

              Three fantasy proms for suggestion:

              Arnold: Symphony No 7
              Moeran: Violin Concerto
              Holst: Egdon Heath
              Vaughan Williams: Sancta Civitas

              Harris: Symphony No 7
              Piston: Violin Concerto No 1
              Hanson: Elegy for Serge Koussevitsky
              Barber: Symphony No 2

              Martinu: Symphony No 3
              Hindemith: Violin Concerto
              Milhaud: Ode for Jerusalem
              Honegger: Symphony No 3


              I'm dreaming of course, they'll never happen.

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              • cloughie
                Full Member
                • Dec 2011
                • 22127

                #8
                AURIC:Ouverture
                FRANCAIX:L'Horloge de Flore
                HONEGGER:Pastorale d'ete
                TAILLEFERRE:Concertino for Harp & O
                JONGEN:Sym Conc for Organ & O
                SCHMITT:La Tragedie de Salome

                São Paulo Symphony Orchestra
                Yan Pascal Tortelier

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                • Osborn

                  #9
                  Originally posted by jayne lee wilson View Post
                  Their eyes met across a crowded arena... she rushed to him, her heart racing and said...
                  I'd already guessed from your emotive prose that you write chick lit bodice rippers in your spare time...

                  (teasing, not serious!)

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                  • Northender

                    #10
                    To be played by the BBC NOW with an English conductor and soloists, or by an English orchestra with a Welsh conductor and soloists:
                    Grace Williams: Sea Sketches
                    William Mathias: Clarinet Concerto
                    Alun Hoddinott: Lanterne des Morts
                    Alan Rawsthorne: Symphony No. 2 ('Pastoral')
                    and for an encore:
                    one or more of Arnold's Welsh Dances

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                    • Nick Armstrong
                      Host
                      • Nov 2010
                      • 26538

                      #11
                      Originally posted by cloughie View Post
                      AURIC:Ouverture
                      FRANCAIX:L'Horloge de Flore
                      HONEGGER:Pastorale d'ete
                      TAILLEFERRE:Concertino for Harp & O
                      JONGEN:Sym Conc for Organ & O
                      SCHMITT:La Tragedie de Salome

                      São Paulo Symphony Orchestra
                      Yan Pascal Tortelier
                      Kinky, cloughs! Like it!
                      "...the isle is full of noises,
                      Sounds and sweet airs, that give delight and hurt not.
                      Sometimes a thousand twangling instruments
                      Will hum about mine ears, and sometime voices..."

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                      • Nick Armstrong
                        Host
                        • Nov 2010
                        • 26538

                        #12
                        Originally posted by ahinton View Post
                        Nielsen: Symphony No. 6
                        Lloyd: Symphony No. 6
                        Sibelius: Symphony No. 6
                        Shostakovich: Sympony No. 6
                        I'd be there for that one!

                        PS: which orchestra / conductor do you think?

                        LPO / Vanska might be fun...
                        "...the isle is full of noises,
                        Sounds and sweet airs, that give delight and hurt not.
                        Sometimes a thousand twangling instruments
                        Will hum about mine ears, and sometime voices..."

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                        • Belgrove
                          Full Member
                          • Nov 2010
                          • 941

                          #13
                          Originally posted by jayne lee wilson View Post


                          Poulenc: Stabat Mater
                          Definitely up for that. How about a series of Poulenc's chamber works for the Cadogan Hall series too? And Stravinsky's Dumbarton Oaks with Bach Brandenburg No 3 at the same place.

                          For the main venue:

                          Debussy: Jeux
                          Faure: Pelleas et Melisande
                          Koechlin: Les Bandar-log

                          Stravinsky: Le roi des etoiles
                          Stravinsky: Pulcinella (complete)
                          Ravel: L'enfant et les sortileges

                          and three late night proms:

                          Arnold: Guitar Concerto
                          Rossini: Petite Messe Solennelle
                          Feldman: Rothko Chapel

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                          • Osborn

                            #14
                            Originally posted by Caliban View Post
                            I'd be there for that one!
                            The gross paying audience for all proms suggested to date ex Gothic & Stravinsky/Ravel is 644 including one gallery ticket at 25p for yourself...
                            Last edited by Guest; 09-08-12, 11:24. Reason: new post arrived

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                            • BBMmk2
                              Late Member
                              • Nov 2010
                              • 20908

                              #15
                              Okay!!

                              Toccata: Oh! The Blessed Lord(Wilfred Heaton)
                              Tuba Concerto(Edward Gregson)
                              A specially comnissioned piece by Marc-Anthony Turngae
                              A Downland Suite(John Ireland)
                              Trumpets of the Angels(Edward Gregson)
                              Elgar Variations(Martin Ellerby)
                              Eden(John Pikard)
                              Revealtion(Philip Whilby)

                              I may edit this at somepoint.
                              Don’t cry for me
                              I go where music was born

                              J S Bach 1685-1750

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