Prom 35: Wednesday 10th August at 7.00 p.m. (Liszt, Glière, Rachmaninov)

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  • Eine Alpensinfonie
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    • Nov 2010
    • 20570
    #1

    Prom 35: Wednesday 10th August at 7.00 p.m. (Liszt, Glière, Rachmaninov)

    The Bournemouth Symphony Orchestra and Kirill Karabits perform three colourful scores, two of them with connections to Karabits's Ukrainian homeland.

    The concert begins with a swashbuckling tone-poem by Liszt telling the story of a legendary Ukrainian, Mazeppa, and it ends with Rachmaninov's most famous (and most lyrical) symphony. Between them comes a real novelty - a melody-filled concerto for wordless soprano and orchestra by Ukrainian-born composer Reinhold Glière. The effervescent Irish soprano Ailish Tynan takes the extraordinary solo part.

    Kirill Karabits has been Principal Conductor of the Bournemouth Symphony Orchestra for two seasons now and their relationship is blossoming into something rather special.

    Liszt: Mazeppa
    Glière: Concerto for Coloratura Soprano
    Rachmaninov: Symphony No. 2 in E minor

    Ailish Tynan (soprano)
    Bournemouth Symphony Orchestra
    Kirill Karabits (conductor)

    Presented by Louise Fryer
    Last edited by Eine Alpensinfonie; 03-08-11, 09:40.
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  • Eine Alpensinfonie
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    • Nov 2010
    • 20570
    #2
    The previous concert received precious few comments, possibly because so many posters have diverted their attention to the "Riots" thread. Very sad, of course, but inevitable.

    As a huge fan of music of the countries of the former Soviet Union, I shall not be missing this one tonight.

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    • Nick Armstrong
      Host
      • Nov 2010
      • 26538
      #3
      Originally posted by Eine Alpensinfonie View Post
      The previous concert received precious few comments, possibly because so many posters have diverted their attention to the "Riots" thread. Very sad, of course, but inevitable.

      As a huge fan of music of the countries of the former Soviet Union, I shall not be missing this one tonight.
      Looking forward to being in the hall for this one, although the heart sinks at the idea of "Mazeppa" opening the proceedings...
      "...the isle is full of noises,
      Sounds and sweet airs, that give delight and hurt not.
      Sometimes a thousand twangling instruments
      Will hum about mine ears, and sometime voices..."

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      • Eine Alpensinfonie
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        • Nov 2010
        • 20570
        #4
        Well it is Liszt's year - not just Mahler's.

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        • mercia
          Full Member
          • Nov 2010
          • 8920
          #5
          that top F cracked my spectacles

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          • Ventilhorn
            #6
            What an appalling choice of music in the first part. I don't know about cracking my specs, but I just could not believe what I was hearing.

            I extend my deepest sympathy to the members of the Bournemout Symphony Orchestra and hope that a good dose of Rachmaninoff in Part 2 will clear their minds and reassure them that they were not mistaken in adopting music as a profession.

            VH

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            • BBMmk2
              Late Member
              • Nov 2010
              • 20908
              #7
              What was that singer dojng? If yo call her one!!!!!!!

              Ah, ventilhorn, the Rach 2 absolutely marveloussounds eminating from the orchestra eh?
              Don’t cry for me
              I go where music was born
              J S Bach 1685-1750

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              • Eine Alpensinfonie
                Host
                • Nov 2010
                • 20570
                #8
                Originally posted by Ventilhorn View Post
                What an appalling choice of music in the first part. I don't know about cracking my specs, but I just could not believe what I was hearing.

                Could you elaborate on precise what you find so distasteful/lacking in this music?

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                • Nick Armstrong
                  Host
                  • Nov 2010
                  • 26538
                  #9
                  Originally posted by Ventilhorn View Post
                  What an appalling choice of music in the first part. I don't know about cracking my specs, but I just could not believe what I was hearing.

                  I extend my deepest sympathy to the members of the Bournemout Symphony Orchestra and hope that a good dose of Rachmaninoff in Part 2 will clear their minds and reassure them that they were not mistaken in adopting music as a profession.

                  VH
                  Ventihorn, I have to agree. Just back from the hall - blimey talk about a game of two halves, John ...

                  First half: dull overture / tone poem or whatever Mazeppa is and then the Glière.... The first movement might be quite nice music in the vocal chords of an appealing singer, but my own (demanding I grant you) taste in singers would exclude Ms Tynan from the stage - a vibrato wide enough to drive a car across, and a sort of icky "seriosity" that I find... well, difficult. And the last movement of the Glière is just schmalzy sub-Disney sound-track muzak We were all laughing - and not in a good way.

                  But what a different second half. A superb (I am tempted to say great) performance of the Rachmaninov - beautifully played, paced, balanced... Precision to the nth degree, yet rich and emotional; lithe, mobile and yet with a natural-sounding rubato that was all about the music. I've heard this piece 100s of times, and actually played in it - and I still heard things I've never noticed before. Best I've heard since hearing Mariss Janssons' dad Arvid play it in Leningrad (as it then was) with the Leningrad Phil. in the early 80s. Triumphant stuff from Bournemouth!!
                  "...the isle is full of noises,
                  Sounds and sweet airs, that give delight and hurt not.
                  Sometimes a thousand twangling instruments
                  Will hum about mine ears, and sometime voices..."

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                  • Chris Newman
                    Late Member
                    • Nov 2010
                    • 2100
                    #10
                    The Rachmaninov was very fine. For me it was almost as good as Semyon Bychkov and the BBCSO a few years back. The regional orchestras are in excellent nick at the moment. I haven't heard the Glière yet ... I do not like Liszt's bombastic bits like Mazeppa and Les Preludes though I much enjoyed the recent Dante Symphony.

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                    • Ravensbourne
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                      • Dec 2010
                      • 100
                      #11
                      Gosh, what a po-faced lot! The Liszt was exciting, Ailish Tynan was delightful (we were all laughing - in a good way), and the Rachmaninov was very fine indeed.

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                      • Nick Armstrong
                        Host
                        • Nov 2010
                        • 26538
                        #12
                        Originally posted by Ravensbourne View Post
                        The Liszt was exciting, Ailish Tynan was delightful (we were all laughing - in a good way)
                        Well, it takes all sorts...

                        Glad you enjoyed yourselves
                        "...the isle is full of noises,
                        Sounds and sweet airs, that give delight and hurt not.
                        Sometimes a thousand twangling instruments
                        Will hum about mine ears, and sometime voices..."

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                        • makropulos
                          Full Member
                          • Nov 2010
                          • 1674
                          #13
                          Originally posted by Ravensbourne View Post
                          Gosh, what a po-faced lot! The Liszt was exciting, Ailish Tynan was delightful (we were all laughing - in a good way), and the Rachmaninov was very fine indeed.
                          Ravensboure - I agree with you - I don't understand this Liszt bashing at all. "Mazeppa" may not be the best of Liszt, but Wagner loved it enough to model the Ride of Valkyries on it (and , and Frederick Niecks (in 1907) considered it one of the most daring symphonic poems ever written. Like you, I found it most exciting and I'm glad to have heard it at the concert tonight.

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                          • mercia
                            Full Member
                            • Nov 2010
                            • 8920
                            #14
                            only the second time in fifty years Mazeppa has been at the proms, funny how things go out of fashion (I enjoyed it). I thought Kit Hesketh-Harvey was a bit snooty about the Gliere without quite saying he thought it was rubbish. Mr Karabits obviously thought they were both worth programming (assuming it was his idea - who does decide these things?).

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                            • Panjandrum
                              #15
                              To be fair, it probably helps to know the story of Mazeppa. Doing so, it is not a work which requires special pleading. The sound of the wild horse ride dragging Mazeppa across the steppes is brilliantly evoked.

                              I just wish those who have an aural "blind spot" for Liszt kept their rancorous opinions to themselves.

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