I can't even remember what I had for my lunch, yesterday, Ferret!
What is your verdict on this year's Proms?
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Ventilhorn
Originally posted by jayne lee wilson View PostFeel very out-of-place among all these chummy old gentlemen... think I'll try getting into chick-lit. Clothes! Fashion! Unless I'm living it already. But don't we all share a love of classical music? No? Oh... bye then. For now.
More of value to our fellow message boarders, I think, than bragging about our collection of equipment.
I suggest that if, as a comparative newcomer to these boards, you show a little more humility, you might learn something to add to your own awareness of what is the vast landscape of musical knowledge and experience.
Ventilhorn
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Jayne,
As one of your "Chubby old gentlemen" (in my dreams!) please do not take offence. We just like to converse and three of us had not done so nor pulled each other's legs since November last year when the Beeb flushed us down the pan and No 3 suddenly popped back up on the boards yesterday. It just occurred in the middle of our (your's and mine) discussion and must have appeared as a snub: the last thing intended. Actually one of the three is a lady/woman (note: I have to be careful, PC even) but I can imagine her chuckling. So stay with us and do not take the banter to heart. We all love music: that is what counts.
Chris.
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Originally posted by Ventilhorn View PostWe "chummy old gentlemen" have heard more, seen more and played more than most; to add to our collection of memories.
More of value to our fellow message boarders, I think, than bragging about our collection of equipment.
I suggest that if, as a comparative newcomer to these boards, you show a little more humility, you might learn something to add to your own awareness of what is the vast landscape of musical knowledge and experience.
Ventilhorn
A total over-reaction to Jayne's message in my view.
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Jayne, me old chum,
We seem to have started on an uneccesarily beligerent tone: I do apologize for my "pall-ly" greetings to much-missed friends; do you mind if we try again?
I notice you included the Birtwistle Violin Concerto amongst your own list of "highlights": this was one of mine, too; in fact the work I was most looking forward to in the entire season. I loved the way HB wrote so idiomatically for the Violin without compromising his unique voice, and the way the work teetered between gentle lament and aggressive rhythmic propulsion - often simultaneously (those long searing melodies "accompanied" by shards of flinty dissonances familiar in his works from Earth Dances onward). Tremendous stuff!
And did you hear the Music Matters special from the Boston premiere of the work. Tom Service at his finest, that "enthusiastic schoolboy" mask combined with relentless probing of HB's responses ("Yes, but what exactly does that mean?") and offering his own ideas leading to the ultimate accolade from HB; "You should be a composer." I could hear Service's face go red!
Best Wishes.[FONT=Comic Sans MS][I][B]Numquam Satis![/B][/I][/FONT]
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BillyR
Originally posted by Chris Newman View PostTHE BLOODY AWFUL RADIO SOUND
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Originally posted by Chris Newman View Post.... However, I also get annoyed with the geeks in the caravans who love their sliders. Listen to the beginning of this from last Friday's Der Freischutz.
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The engineer (presumably reading the score) becomes aware that there will be some gun shooting going on. What does he do? He/she damp down the entire thing. The volume of the chorus, orchestra, sound effects, Uncle Tom Cobley and all slide up and down. That happened on HD and the iPlayer. I am puzzled. We both seem to agree it goes on but you keep shooting me down for mentioning it. As far as I am concerned the mess is very typical of most Prom broadcasts this year....
As far as the gun shots are concerned I would have thought that such things are impossible to 'control' and the engineers might well have relied on the soft limiting that, I assume, automatically happens in any case.
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Jayne, good morning, I bear nobody any illwill and am sure your contributions are as welcome as anyone's.
Perhaps as a newcomer you don't realise that,although we try to stay on topic, two or three conversations usually go on simultaneously on any popular thread. I hav e many times been ignored or passed over for the main subject of the thread but usually get back in there later. No-one meant to upset you but you did rather spoil a touching reunion with FHG. As the chummy old woman/lady that dear Chris referred to, I can assure you that music means as much to me as anyone, having spent my life working in the music world.
Please relax, we all need these MBs and speaking for myself it is my link with a past life. Okay?
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Originally posted by Ventilhorn View PostWe "chummy old gentlemen" have heard more, seen more and played more than most; to add to our collection of memories.
More of value to our fellow message boarders, I think, than bragging about our collection of equipment.
I suggest that if, as a comparative newcomer to these boards, you show a little more humility, you might learn something to add to your own awareness of what is the vast landscape of musical knowledge and experience.
Ventilhorn
I don't see why newcomers should 'show humility', unless it's to bolster the egos of some of the rather more pompous members. Who knows, a necomer to the board could be one of the most distinguished performers - even more distinguished than Ventilhorn.
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Badger
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Originally posted by tsuji-giri View PostI found them generally distinctly lack-lustre, apart from a light music evening and a hollywood evening, which went off after a very few minutes.
They do seem to be losing their way...
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Originally posted by Badger View PostI really do believe the message given to Roger Wright by the BBC for 2008 onwards must have been to widen the appeal of the Proms to more people. Hence for purists and traditionalists a proportion of what is now really an 'arts festival' including poetry, light music, even turntable 'scratching' with orchestra and comedy/fringe performers, with the big screen and live simultaneous Last Nights around the UK, is bound to disappoint and appear to lower standards.
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