TV query. re. getting Video Recorder on to new TV

[salymap]

I have a new Logik TV with integral DVD.

As I have hundreds of Videos I asked for my videoplayer tobe connected.

It came on okay[ I have to find Aux2 and the player comes to life. I could then get a blue screen on my old tv and go ahead.It started playing but noton the tv.

Whatever I tried yesterday tv ignored my request. Nothing in the new manual as the videoplayer has been added by me.

I paid £40 for the set up, but before I contact the firm thought I would ask here, where all knowledge is to be found.

EDIT I should have called this thread VIDEO PLAYER, I understand I should be able to play butnot record now.

[mangerton]

Well, I'm sure among us all we'll be able to help. Two questions.

1. What sort of connection between the VCR and the TV? I presume SCART - could you confirm, please?

2. What is the TV model No? I ask because it should be possible to get the instruction book online, and I'm sure you know the old adage, "If all else fails, read the instructions".

It may be this evening before I'm here again, but others may be along soon.

[Stanley Stewart]

Mornin', saly!. I'm no techie but let's proceed on the mantra that 'ignorance is bliss' and let's hope that my operational functionig is similar to yours. I have a Sony hard disk TV/DVD system connected by scarts to my video player. You use, say, AUX, whereas I function on a LINE basis. L1 or L2, in turn, Aux I or 2 for you. In order to play OR record from a video to hard disk, I need to connect both sytems. First, I switch on the video recorder and using the VIDEO remote control, press the INPUT SELECT button for LI (or Aux I, in your case) - this will appear on your video facia. Second stage is to use my HARD DISK remote and press the INPUT button to select LI (Aux I for you). In turn, this will also appear on your hard disk facia. Sweet harmony. Both functions are now in - line and SEEN to match so press the play button on your video remote to proceed. 'Ave a go - and let's see what happens!

[salymap]

Thanks both.

Poor coz expected to mend curtain rail,so, for now.

Model Logik L32HED13 and yes a double scart socket as this TV only has one.

More later - it allhappens here

[Dave2002]

I assume we really are talking about VCRs here. Most that I've seen have SCART connections, but some may also have others, including S-Video, composite and component video.

From what has been written so far I'd assume SCART. It also sounds as though the SCART cable has been used before, and worked, with another TV. Not all SCART cables are the same, but let's assume the one here is good enough. I have found SCART to be a bit iffy re the connections, and it's easy to move the cable and lose the connection. Do make sure the ends are pushed firmly into the sockets. Usually the cable comes out at a slight angle. Stupid design of cable really - inserting the cables is not very positive, and there are no locking mechanisms. Good for quick connections maybe, but an "interesting" way of creating unwanted problems.

[MrGongGong]

SCART cables
terrible things, avoid if at all possible
not designed for using more than once

[salymap]

Sorry Stanley, it just stays on the video but nothing will shift to the TV.

Must give it up for now.

[Gordon]

Hi Sal. I think you are almost certainly using SCART. Good advice above is to make sure all the SCART connectors are firmly in place, they can get loose enough to lose contact quite easily. If your TV only has 1 SCART input it would seem that the problem is with the cable.

If it is looped through another device - eg set top for Freeview - the signal sometimes only gets through if that device is also switched on! A friend had that trouble with their Sky Box a while ago. Fixed by avoiding loops or changing order of loop. Doesn't sound as though there are other devices conencted to the TV though?

I assume that neither the video nor the audio from the VCR get through? The VCR may have 2 SCARTS, one for input and one for output. Are you sure that the SCART to the TV is connected to the OUTPUT SCART on the VCR?

[mangerton]

Hi Sal. I think you are almost certainly using SCART. Good advice above is to make sure all the SCART connectors are firmly in place, they can get loose enough to lose contact quite easily. If your TV only has 1 SCART input it would seem that the problem is with the cable.

If it is looped through another device - eg set top for Freeview - the signal sometimes only gets through if that device is also switched on! A friend had that trouble with their Sky Box a while ago. Fixed by avoiding loops or changing order of loop. Doesn't sound as though there are other devices conencted to the TV though?

I assume that neither the video nor the audio from the VCR get through? The VCR may have 2 SCARTS, one for input and one for output. Are you sure that the SCART to the TV is connected to the OUTPUT SCART on the VCR?

What he said. It would appear the problem is with the SCART connection - well known to be an invention of the devil on a very bad day. Ensure the connection is correct, and retry. If that doesn't work, we'll re-apply the thinking caps. I've found the manual online and will download it when I get home if required.

[salymap]

I checked that the double scart is as secure as I can make it. As it was connected by the man from PC World I don't like to tinker with it.

Nothing got through from the video but the film was running silently.

Off for a bit now. Thanks for help.

[johnb]

Sal,

Silly question: did you select the source on your TV, using either the remote (it might be called "Input") or the TV controls? You need to select "SCART" when playing the video recorder, then revert to DTV (or similar) afterwards in order to watch the TV programmes again.

Sorry if this is obvious to you - thought I would mention it, just in case.

[Gordon]

I checked that the double scart is as secure as I can make it. As it was connected by the man from PC World I don't like to tinker with it.

Nothing got through from the video but the film was running silently.

Off for a bit now. Thanks for help.

Not sure what you mean by "double SCART" here? Did you mean both ends of the same single cable? I agree about leaving be what the man from PC World did but didn't he test the VCR before he left? IE was it working when he was there but now it isn't?

[Don Petter]

Not all SCART cables have all the connections wired. (Though one would have thought that with your simplest of configurations a basic one would be sufficient anyway?) Techies might comment.

[Dave2002]

Not all SCART cables have all the connections wired. (Though one would have thought that with your simplest of configurations a basic one would be sufficient anyway?) Techies might comment.

That is correct, though if the connection has previously worked this should not be a problem. If it has not worked, then a cable with all the connections should solve the problem.

Sometimes it is possible to see merely by looking at the cable and plug ends that some of the pins are missing, which might give a further clue.

PS: was mention made of Multi Scart Connectors? These are switching units which usually go behind or under the TV, and they're supposed to switch automatically. Some of them also have manual (grovel on the floor?) switching or remote switching. If one of those has been put in the link it could add an extra layer (almost certainly unneeded) to the equation!

[Gordon]

Just a thought, all double ended SCARTs - especially a fully pinned one, the so called golden SCART - should be insensitive to orientation ie which way round the ends go to input and output. If this one's pin set, as has been suggested, might be incomplete then it is possible that it needs to be the right way round? Some SCARTs, often plugged into a single connector on the source/destination device, have switches set into the connector to make them either input or output leads but these seem mostly to have set of separate video and audio phonos on the other end. That isn't the case here is it?

It still puzzles me that, given he'd been asked specifically to install the VCR with the new TV, the PC World man didn't seem to check that the VCR was working before he left? Or if he did his instructions, or those in the manual, were/are inadequate.