new BBC radio iPlayer

[Word]

you (+ others) might find http://www.gnu.org/philosophy/right-to-read.html relevant to the dystopic world that DRM offers - Apple is merely just another greedy amoral American company currently using the US software patent system (luckily not yet adopted by EU) to keep any competitor away from its walled garden

That's all about Windows 'trusted computing', of which I am not a fan (though I wouldn't stand beside Richard Stallman in opposing it). ... and the relevance of that article to Apple: "we expect Apple to do something similar"

Though it will give me absolutely no pleasure in saying 'I told you so', the company of whom you should be wary at this time is Google; their 'product' is information on all the people who use their services, which they sell to provide almost all of their revenue. Best not to even consider which governments have access.

(In contrast many advertisers and publishers weren't happy with Apple's refusal to divulge the personal details of people who buy magazine subscriptions etc. through the iTunes store - the compromise, which seems an acceptable one to me, is to provide the user (Apple's customer and primary source of revenue) the option of volunteering that information to the publisher if they so wish.)

[Word]

When I heard about this, i was hoping that, when i get the correct phone, I will be able to do what i really want to do, which is catch up with late night shows when I am in my car in the day.
But I guess this is a way off, and probably subject to paying for a huge cost tariff among other things.
is this right?

The iPlayer Radio does buffer programmes when listening to something that has been previously broadcast, so theoretically you could start listening whilst you have Wi-Fi access then continue your journey after a couple of minutes once it has downloaded, but I don't think you can interrupt and then return to the programme without it having to be downloaded again.
'tis a shame that you can't just download it for a month, as per the TV programmes, though it does look as if many radio programmes will remain available on-line for far longer.

Though unfortunately lacking the immediacy, your best bet would be to record the programmes via Freeview and then listen to those as per any mp3 or aac file.

[teamsaint]

you (+ others) might find http://www.gnu.org/philosophy/right-to-read.html relevant to the dystopic world that DRM offers - Apple is merely just another greedy amoral American company currently using the US software patent system (luckily not yet adopted by EU) to keep any competitor away from its walled garden

thanks. i am mistrustful of big organisations !
there was a decent thread on DRM on the board not so long ago... and a guardian journalists crusade to the expose BBC over its clandestine activities in this area.

[Annapolisguy]

I've downloaded and installed the separate radio-only mobile app to my iPhone and it is like having one very long phone call while listening to the radio on my iPhone.

Additionally, here is a great program which enables you make your downloaded BBC iPlayer programes DRM-free so that you can keep them on local hard drive forever.

[Bryn]

I've downloaded and installed the separate radio-only mobile app to my iPhone and it is like having one very long phone call while listening to the radio on my iPhone.

Additionally, here is a great program which enables you make your downloaded BBC iPlayer programes DRM-free so that you can keep them on local hard drive forever.

There are cheaper, more versatile alternatives. Do bear in mind that such programs facilitate copyright theft.

[french frank]

Just a note to say that, unless officially notified to the contrary, I am taking the downloading of On Demand programmes as being against the BBC's terms and conditions. The TV programmes are, in any case, not available to viewers outside the UK so using a proxy to avoid detection is not something we should encourage. Consequently, at the moment the forum will not allow links to such software.

[teamsaint]

The iPlayer Radio does buffer programmes when listening to something that has been previously broadcast, so theoretically you could start listening whilst you have Wi-Fi access then continue your journey after a couple of minutes once it has downloaded, but I don't think you can interrupt and then return to the programme without it having to be downloaded again.
'tis a shame that you can't just download it for a month, as per the TV programmes, though it does look as if many radio programmes will remain available on-line for far longer.

Though unfortunately lacking the immediacy, your best bet would be to record the programmes via Freeview and then listen to those as per any mp3 or aac file.

thanks for the advice, Wordy .
Er, at the risk of sounding like a complete dinosaur, how would I record programmes on freeview? through my computer? onto a memory stick? or what?
ta.

[Word]

thanks for the advice, Wordy .
Er, at the risk of sounding like a complete dinosaur, how would I record programmes on freeview? through my computer? onto a memory stick? or what?
ta.

If you have a Freeview PVR it may be possible, depending on the model, to transfer TV and Radio records from there to your computer, then to convert them into an appropriate format, but…

… by far the easiest way is to record the programmes directly on your computer using a Freeview tuner.

Elgato have a pretty good range that supports their competent viewing/recording software on the Mac and PC (though one annoyance is that they don't support the UK Freeview HD standard ).

If you don't need Mac support (and it's really only the application software & drivers that are Mac specific), then you'll find better value examples by searching Amazon or similar for:
usb freeview tv tuner
or
usb freeview HD tv tuner

I can't vouch for the quality of the hardware or software but, should the latter be a problem, I think there are open source alternatives.
Also, you'll need access to a rooftop aerial or good indoor alternative (the sometimes included 'whip' aerials are useless).

Once you have the device plugged in and have recorded the programmes you're after, the included software should allow you to save them in a suitable format for playback on an mp3 player, phone, etc.. (The software should automatically wake your PC when it's time to record a programme and may allow you to automatically export the saved recordings.)

[teamsaint]

If you have a Freeview PVR it may be possible, depending on the model, to transfer TV and Radio records from there to your computer, then to convert them into an appropriate format, but…

… by far the easiest way is to record the programmes directly on your computer using a Freeview tuner.

Elgato have a pretty good range that supports their competent viewing/recording software on the Mac and PC (though one annoyance is that they don't support the UK Freeview HD standard ).

If you don't need Mac support (and it's really only the application software & drivers that are Mac specific), then you'll find better value examples by searching Amazon or similar for:
usb freeview tv tuner
or
usb freeview HD tv tuner

I can't vouch for the quality of the hardware or software but, should the latter be a problem, I think there are open source alternatives.
Also, you'll need access to a rooftop aerial or good indoor alternative (the sometimes included 'whip' aerials are useless).

Once you have the device plugged in and have recorded the programmes you're after, the included software should allow you to save them in a suitable format for playback on an mp3 player, phone, etc.. (The software should automatically wake your PC when it's time to record a programme and may allow you to automatically export the saved recordings.)

Ok , you have been a big help. Thanks for going to the trouble of explaining.Don't know if I will get that done, but I may have a stab.
Cheers.

[Word]

You're most welcome and if you are primarily interested in radio one of the cheaper USB tuners should be fine as the only thing you'd miss out on would be the HD TV channels. Good luck if you do choose to dabble.

[gradus]

Is R3 still available in HD sound, I can't find any reference to HD sound on the new player. Grateful for help!

[gradus]

In reply to my own question, yes it still is, see top rt hand corner of player screen!